Meramec River Shooting

[strangercreek]

I understand everyone's frustration with how guns play into this. Anytime something like this happens, especially close to your neck of the woods, it really hits home. We have had many many shootings, and a few shootings on public transit in KC recently (this is way I live 30 miles west). It always brings up the argument and I get it, but I just don't buy into the fact that guns are the problem...and even if they were, they are here to stay (in the criminals hands anyway).

If crocker did have a record, it will be interesting to see if he was a legal gun owner......he shouldn't have been

[Rainbow McCloud]

I agree with this 100%. I sometimes walk between my office and the convenience store two blocks over, and many times get harassed by a drunk or two in the alley. Even though I am carrying, I will go clear around the opposite block just to avoid them on my way back. Like I said, responsible, respectful, and legal gun owners aren't the problem. If I was a lunatic I would have a hand on my weapon just waiting for some action....no Tackleberry here

I would just skip the trip to the convenience store if I had to face all that. Lives to short!

[strangercreek]

I would just skip the trip to the convenience store if I had to face all that. Lives to short!

Sometimes a cold Dr Pepper is REALLY needed, nothing else close. I don't do it that often though. It has improved anyway, they remodeled the whole place and cleaned it up.

[Rainbow McCloud]

I don't like Dr. Pepper, so maybe I shouldn't comment. I love red Bull but could do without if I thought it was dangerous to go get one.

[jdmidwest]

Hmmm...I'm with JoeD now. We're on page 10 of this topic and not one word about the man who died at the end of a gun 5 days ago. But all doom and gloom about OUR rights to gravel.

I mentioned the fact that he should have turned and left the scene when the warning shots were fired. He might still be alive today, but common sense left him and he became involved the rest of the story.

[lee G.]

woodman, I agree with you, but I would, we are native to this land, at least part of our heritage is Cherokee part white too, lol,

[lee G.]

On another note that has been raised, the meth heads, gang bangers, and nut cases arent going away, so what do we do when the police are there only after the fact?

[strangercreek]

On another note that has been raised, the meth heads, gang bangers, and nut cases arent going away, so what do we do when the police are there only after the fact?

Like someone mentioned earlier, try your hardest not to put yourself in that position, but when it comes to making a living, sometimes it just isn't possible (and I love my job.... I'm not going to work in some safe corporate hell hole just because I get harassed in a parking garage once in a while)

[Smalliebigs]

if you look at mocase.net......IMO Crockers past is not as bad as Darts. Crockes has a ton of tickets for speeding and a few divorces but, the Dart fellow wasn't exactly an angel by any means

I understand everyone's frustration with how guns play into this. Anytime something like this happens, especially close to your neck of the woods, it really hits home. We have had many many shootings, and a few shootings on public transit in KC recently (this is way I live 30 miles west). It always brings up the argument and I get it, but I just don't buy into the fact that guns are the problem...and even if they were, they are here to stay (in the criminals hands anyway).

If crocker did have a record, it will be interesting to see if he was a legal gun owner......he shouldn't have been

[strangercreek]

......and by the way, I would have been the first canoe headed down river before Crocker even made it onto the gravel bar...the fact that he even showed up would have been enough indication to me that something might happen......I'm out of there