Fish "bite Offs" And Line Breaks At Hookset

[Gavin]

Just be happy that your getting bit....You cant control what happens on the other end of the line all the time.

[Feathers and Fins]

This actually is a discussion on line though, I have used Seaguar for many years and never had one issue with it. Line issues could be from numerous causes I bet we could go on for years on them. But for the primary ones I would go with ( guide frays) ( Roller on real fray points) ( out in the sun and damaged from that ) ( structure rub ) (improper spooling ) and the big one Angler Neglect in checking it.

Still as Walleye being the discussion point Im going with Gill Blade cut-offs or Angler Neglect as to why.

[kjackson]

In my experience--granted on Columbia River system fish and not White River walleyes-- walleyes simply do not cut line. Having an unexplained line cut was so rare in my experience that I have a difficult time accepting that it is/was walleye caused. I fished with four-pound a lot and would not hesitate to use it for walleyes in a lot of situations. Six-pound XL was my line of choice when jigging.

The only time I had anything close to the "set--there he is--and he's gone" situation was when we first started using Fireline in desert lakes that had broken basalt banks and bottoms. Fireline simply does not like sharp rocks, shells or anything with an edge. Based on my limited experience on Beaver and Table Rock, I would suggest what you might be seeing/feeling is either a fish dragging your line (fluorocarbon, mono, hybrid, Fireline or whatever) over some sharp flint shards or abrasion due to same that results in the line popping when you're on a fish.

My opinion is based on my fishing in the Northwest, the Dakotas, Minnesota and Canada. I just don't see a walleye cutting line. The only times I've had the nibble-bite-hookset that resulted in cut line is in pike country.

But if you're not catching the occasional pike, pickerel or muskie, then what you're experiencing is probably related to the line and the stuff on the bottom, which is what F&F was pointing to. Or gar---I'll go with gar having lost an umbrella rig to one this spring.

[exiledguide]

I never thought about gill plates but that makes sense or do like my wife and say it had to be a fifteen pounder just broke her line. Works for her but she never was good at knowing how long things are..........and she has very small hands.

[bfishn]

Walleye teeth often get likened to needles, and while they certainly hurt more, I believe a needle is actually a little bit sharper. And like a needle, the business is all at the point, the rest is conical & smooth. Unlike human teeth made for biting and chewing, walleye teeth don't mate point to point when closed as they neither bite off a piece of anything nor do they chew it. The only thing the points ever come in contact with is prey.

As an excersise for the unsure, try to "bite off" a line in the tub with a handful of needles. Report back.

But.... if the line gets past the end of the overhanging upper lip... and the moon is in the seventh house... and Jupiter aligns with Mars... oh wait...

But.... if the line gets past the end of the overhanging upper lip, there's a gap waiting below the armored cheek plate, and the edge is like a razor (same disclaimer as the needle analogy).

As an exercise for the unsure, run your finger along that edge... don't really... but if you do, don't say I didn't warn you. :-)

[rps]

Now that is an excellent response!

[fishinSWMO]

Playing with gar the last couple weeks, I had to constantly check my line for abrasions.

[Old plug]

ABRASIONS ! I check my 30lb test steel leader and it gets so bent up it is useless. Anyone who has examined a Gars chops up close knows they are extreme with 4 rows 2 inside and 2 tilted outside. I love the fish they can give you.

[Mitch f]

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Playing with gar the last couple weeks, I had to constantly check my line for abrasions.

Good to hear from you again Jeremy

[Quillback]

I'm sticking to my beliefs that walleye are the source of all mysterious breakoffs.