Braid In Clear Water

[Mitch f]

Great topic! I know when I used to tie the double uni for this application, you had to double the braid because of the dissimilar diameters of the lines.

So...Has anyone ever heard of a knot that actually holds up to 100% of the tensile strength of the line?

[Old plug]

Polamar best knot ever. I think a lot of the the time break offs have nothing to do with the knot. Its the line, angler or the hook itself.

[Wayne SW/MO]

The knot is the weak spot because of the pressure it puts on the line. That's why I suspect a 100% is impossible. Beyond that however there is always the sticky abrasion spot, unseen, just waiting to turn the big one loose. In my experience I see more breaks from that then from a knot like the Palomar. Loops have the problem of a lot of pressure at a 360 with a lot of rubbing and I generally see them break at the eye and not the knot. My connecting knot is very strong because it has a lot of cushion like the surgeons.

Braid isn't all roses, unlike nylon, it generally breaks right at the rating and a 20/6 braid has the abrasion resistance of a moderate cost 6# mono.

[Ham]

My experience has been that braid has GREAT abrashion resistance to grass or wood. It isn't real special in regards to sharp rock edges or sharp metal edges.

I've never seen 6 lb mono hold up to wood as well as 20/6 braid will. Dock cables and boatdock metal frames are a different story.

[Gavin]

I usually use that 6lb suffix...thinnest braid that I've found....20/6 is like rope in comparison...it knots pretty well with mono or flouro. A weak knot can be caused by a difference in diameters.

[jpb2187]

Great topic! I know when I used to tie the double uni for this application, you had to double the braid because of the dissimilar diameters of the lines.

So...Has anyone ever heard of a knot that actually holds up to 100% of the tensile strength of the line?

I've heard the double san diego jam knot will - just tie a san diego jam but with the line doubled.

[Old plug]

A lot of hooks where the eye bend is ends against the hook. Can outright cut a line. I can sat in doing this stuff for over 60 years have i never seen a clear connection between the knot and a broken line. Like wayne said it is usually some abrasion on the line. Either that are just plain trying to horse something.

I am about out of here for good I am full up with this IPad. I do not have all the problems with selling and other things on our big Mac. I wonder if it has something to do with our WIFI signal here that is not that is anything but good.

[joeD]

There are too many variables that go into knot strength when one is on the water. Knot variations and their ascribed strengths are usually a non factor in fish catch rate success.

I know one thing though. When fishing braid from a canoe in moving water, if you get hung up in fast water, that braid isn't breaking. But your rod might, if you're not careful.

Also, as previously mentioned, a lure reacting differently is not always a bad thing.

Bottom line, as always, it's a preference thing. There is no empirical evidence either way. Plus, fish neither know nor care. They'll hit or not.

[LarrySTL]

For you topwater guys fishing straight braid, I can understand that on frogs, but if you dont use a leader, WTF do you do to get the trebles out of the braid on regular hardbodied surface lures, particularly walking lures ?

[Wayne SW/MO]

For you topwater guys fishing straight braid, I can understand that on frogs, but if you dont use a leader, WTF do you do to get the trebles out of the braid on regular hardbodied surface lures, particularly walking lures ?

Huh?

Old Plug don't you have spell check on that somewhere. I know what you mean about mistakes on those small keyborads, but spell check saves the day for me. Now if they would just come up with grammar correction.