Who Is Tying The San Diego Knot?

[moguy1973]

Palomar has never come undone on me since I started using it. The improved clinch failed more times than not for me it seemed.

[ness]

Good Point.... actually, what do you call a shoe lace knot? a bow knot?

I dunno, but I do tie mine with an extra turn through the second loop. Not the old double knot, don't know if it's got a name but I sold my boys on it by calling it the army knot.

[ness]

Oh man, there's a website! LOL. Turns out I'm tying a Shoelace Surgeon.

http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/surgeonknot.htm

[ness]

I don't want to blow up this thread too bad, but there's a shoelace tying app on that site. LOL, literally.

[Flysmallie]

I don't want to blow up this thread too bad, but there's a shoelace tying app on that site. LOL, literally.

Finally! Now I can quit wearing Velcro.

[Al Agnew]

I believe his knot test results in that article, although I wish he would have also tested the uni knot. However, note the caveats he put at the end...that any knot with lots of loops like the San Diego, the improved clinch, or the uni for that matter, are only at full strength if every loop is uniform when tightened up. The beauty of the palomar knot, which he tested at the second strongest at 91% compared to 94% for the San Diego, is that it doesn't have a bunch of loops. In my opinion, it's the easiest knot to tie flawlessly. It's also, in my opinion, by far the easiest knot to tie, period, of all the good ones, at least if you're tying it to a hook, a single hook lure, or a snap. Tying it to a big multiple treble hook lure is somewhat of a pain. Since I usually use a snap on all my hard baits, I'll stick with the palomar.

One interesting thing I've found with the palomar, however. When I use a two nymph rig fly fishing, I tie the top nymph on with a palomar, leaving the tag end 15 inches or so long, and tie the bottom fly to the end of that long tag end. When the bottom fly snags and I have to break off, the line almost always breaks right up against the top fly. The top fly is still on, and in fact the palomar knot holding it is still strong, but it has no tag end left. Apparently, there's something about it that weakens the line right where the tag end goes into the knot. That's no problem when you're using it to tie on a single lure since the knot itself is okay.

[gramps50]

I tie the SDJ all the time. I started using it after trying g to tie a crank bait using a Palmor, pretty much a pain unless you have a big loop. Started using the SDJ and liked it so now I use it to tie everything on. Works on mono, flouro, & braid.

[Mitch f]

Funny thing about me and uni knot...I have been tying it forever and didn't know the name until I went to an Eakins jig seminar with the Eakins father and son duo and that's what they tied. I've heard Merc1997 from this forum uses a double uni and swears by the strength... maybe he can chime in.

Not changing is pure laziness on my part.

[Mitch f]

So I found this and Im going to change back to the palomar... the eye crosser is a double looped uni knot

[Seth]

I use the Palomar for braid. For mono, I switch between the Palomar and improved clinch. With fluorocarbon, I use a double Sandiego and sometimes an improved clinch. Regardless of the knot I use, I still seem to break a few fish off on the hookset with fluorocarbon if they bite when I don't have much line out and I get excited on the hook set and really pop them.