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[Riverwhy]

Now don't get a bee up your shorts boys. i'm happy fpr you and your microchips. We all know the clear deepwater lakes can be tough without them in the summer. I also whole heartedly agree than many if not most can not fully understand the technology they have on board anyway.

Bit don't assume that the fellow in the 14 foot fishing boat isn't doing his share of catching.

[Bird Watcher]

Now don't get a bee up your shorts boys. i'm happy fpr you and your microchips. We all know the clear deepwater lakes can be tough without them in the summer. I also whole heartedly agree than many if not most can not fully understand the technology they have on board anyway.

Bit don't assume that the fellow in the 14 foot fishing boat isn't doing his share of catching.

I wasn't in any way commenting on the catching ability of a guy in a 14' boat. Just the opposite. It will always be the indian and not the arrow. There's just immensely more information to interpret. As you put it, "The science of catching".

Now my gps remote control trolling motor, that's a game changer. I can never see going back to a trolling motor that I have to stand on top of at the front of the boat to operate or needing rope and an anchor to stay on top of my spot.

[Seth]

I completely forgot about electric trolling motors with GPS capabilities. I'm still using a cable steer on my rig due to mainly fishing shallow rivers for bass. I've been on several boats with the Ipilot and Autopilot Minnkota Terrova/Powerdrives and they are the cats behind for open water fishing. I'm saving my pennies for when Minnkota releases the Ulterra to market. It has all the great features of Ipilot and also includes the ability to stow and deploy as well as raise and lower the trolling motor with the push of a button. The worst part about those electric steer models was the stow and deploy.

[fishinwrench]

I like the feeling of relying more on my senses to find fish. I only use a basic LCR on my lake boat and really only use it for navigating shallow flats and finding edges. I have zero electronics on my river boats unless you count my phone with Riverflow and Viewranger apps, and I have gone back to a "thermometer on a string" for temp readings because surface temps really don't tell me anything useful.

Of course this is because I don't compete on a regular basis anymore. If I did I would certainly have and use all the necessary aids.

[Mitch f]

Question for you guys: my buddy tells me that if you put your hand down in the water just under the transducer that your hand will immediately start to ache. Is this true? And if it is true I wonder if fish are conditioned to it or shy away from it?

[fishinwrench]

Question for you guys: my buddy tells me that if you put your hand down in the water just under the transducer that your hand will immediately start to ache. Is this true? And if it is true I wonder if fish are conditioned to it or shy away from it?

His hand is probably aching because he is hanging upside down over the transom and the steering cable is pinching an artery in his armpit.

[Bird Watcher]

Question for you guys: my buddy tells me that if you put your hand down in the water just under the transducer that your hand will immediately start to ache. Is this true? And if it is true I wonder if fish are conditioned to it or shy away from it?

It feels like arthritis in the joints of my fingers if I wrap my hand around it. It doesn't have to be in water. It can be on the trailer. Do the fish care? I don't know. I've heard it conjectured that if there are a lot of boats in shallow water with their electronics running it will bother them. One boat with electronics running doesn't seem to bother them. I've caught countless fish right underneath them in less than 10 FOW.

[Lvn2Fish]

Question for you guys: my buddy tells me that if you put your hand down in the water just under the transducer that your hand will immediately start to ache. Is this true? And if it is true I wonder if fish are conditioned to it or shy away from it?

Not sure about it hurting you. But if im in water less than 5 feet deep I turn my electronics off. There is def. an clicking noise they can hear.

[cart7]

Actually, I think the worst part about those power drive models was the slow head turning speeds. I'll agree though, the stow and deploy was a PITA. I bought one of the MK power drives when they first came out in the early 90's and the stow and deploy on those models was really bad. They managed to redesign it and make it a little better.

The other issue besides S & D and the slow head turning speeds was the inability to route a transducer cable neatly on the TM shaft. Mostly because of the way the stow and deploy was designed on the motor. I know, they now have transducer's mounted in the TM head but that merely limits what type of depthfinder/LCD you can hook up.

I've never figured out why MK has done so little to those motors to make them more bass fishing friendly over the 20 + years or so the motors have been out.

BTW, the push button stow and deploy was originally found on the MK Genesis motor that was out about 10 years or so ago. The motor wasn't around long, the mechanism for stowing and deploying broke often.