This Is Very Sad

[lee G.]

I will relate something from years back on the climate debate, that has always been in the back of my mind.

I read the the temperature of Mars was increasing, so, I thought to my self, could the sun be a factor??

[Chief Grey Bear]

How did Al Gore find his way in to this conversation. BTW its 2014 and our polar cap is still here.

He didn't.

Jerry just spewed false info he heard on FOX.

BTW one can say that the polar cap at times extended as far as the Missouri and Ohio valleys. Certainly a far cry from what Jerry said.

[lee G.]

But Tim, i think the real point is, Is it increasing?

I hope not to Chiefs levels,

[Tim Smith]

Chief seems pretty level headed to me. But. We are off topic and deserving of an "X". If anyone wants the answers to Lee's questions they'll be posted on a new thread on the conservation board where this kind of talk is allowed (and sometimes even encouraged when it's civil).

[lee G.]

Thanks Tim.

[Smalliebigs]

But Tim, i think the real point is, Is it increasing?

I hope not to Chiefs levels,

yes....it increased dramatically in the last 18 months.....Antarctica will close the shipping lane on the southern tip of Africa soon if it keeps on it's path. Lee I haven't heard from you in a long time....glad you are back.....try not to get climate info from Chief or Tim....before you know it you will be buy carbon credits with your retirement money.

Seriously I can't believe anyone would listen to this utter BS posted here......I'm pretty sure you guys don't??? do the research yourself....beware though as most research that is being done on the climate has a motive behind it so good luck finding the truth.

[Jerry Rapp]

[Tim Smith]

Seriously I can't believe anyone would listen to this utter BS posted here......I'm pretty sure you guys don't??? do the research yourself....beware though as most research that is being done on the climate has a motive behind it so good luck finding the truth.

It's called "reading". Specifically "reading" research from people who actually study this stuff. Such as data from the scientists at NOAA....which is what is posted here. NASA is another good source. Clearly those bozos don't know what they're talking about either. You can tell them so when they're not busy driving the Mars rover.

Where's a flag? Imma wave it.

[lee G.]

Hi Smallie, I was a math major in college, i tell people all the time that numbers will lie to you, they really will if you arent a math guy,

and i mean a really good math guy!

Polls are a example of that, if you dont know the internals on a poll, you dont know what it says.

[Chief Grey Bear]

You are out of your league Tim. Once Scott gets involved in a discussion, the only relevant data is what fits his agenda no matter the source. Which is never very credible.