dtrs5kprs Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 QB sure is quiet with all these recent posts over lost fish and hooks. I bet there will be another report late this afternoon from the BIG M. Too nice a day to not be fishing!Darn work, can't live with it or without it. No kidding. You would think he was a WR with five drops or something. Count on us to micro analyze your failures Quill.
Fish24/7 Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 I tried that too and had a lot of side mouth hooking in that real thin tissue and in most cases the hook would rotate on its side and in some cases the fish would not get hooked at all, they would simply open their mouth and fall out and be flopping in the boat, if you were lucky enough to get it in that far. Donna, Don' you try that physics test with the shape your thumb is in!! because your hook was probably kirbed more than 3 degrees You can sometimes bend an exposed hook point a few degrees up, down, left or right to assist with the hook set. Start out with a straight point. Keep mental notes about which part of the mouth you are hooking fish in when you land a few. If you are mostly hooking fish in the right jaw, bend or "kirb" the hook a few degrees right. Kirb the hook a few degrees left for the left jaw, and a few degrees up if you are hooking them in the roof of the mouth or the upper lip. If you are encountering problems with snags, bend the hook a few degrees down which will make it more snagless, but you also have to be slightly more deliberate when you set a down-turned hook. What do I mean? Often you can swing and set instantly or with only a slight hesitation when you have a straight hook, bent up or kirbed hook. When you have the point bent down, you should get some deliberate extra tension in the line for an instant before swinging on the hookset. The deliberate extra tension will cause the fish to close its mouth cavity more tightly to grip the bait by compressing its tongue (which is raspy like sandpaper) against the roof of its mouth. So, that deliberate extra deliberate pause to "load" a little tension on the line is often necessary when an exposed point is bent down a few degrees. - Russ Bassdozer
Champ188 Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 because your hook was probably kirbed more than 3 degrees You can sometimes bend an exposed hook point a few degrees up, down, left or right to assist with the hook set. Start out with a straight point. Keep mental notes about which part of the mouth you are hooking fish in when you land a few. If you are mostly hooking fish in the right jaw, bend or "kirb" the hook a few degrees right. Kirb the hook a few degrees left for the left jaw, and a few degrees up if you are hooking them in the roof of the mouth or the upper lip. If you are encountering problems with snags, bend the hook a few degrees down which will make it more snagless, but you also have to be slightly more deliberate when you set a down-turned hook. What do I mean? Often you can swing and set instantly or with only a slight hesitation when you have a straight hook, bent up or kirbed hook. When you have the point bent down, you should get some deliberate extra tension in the line for an instant before swinging on the hookset. The deliberate extra tension will cause the fish to close its mouth cavity more tightly to grip the bait by compressing its tongue (which is raspy like sandpaper) against the roof of its mouth. So, that deliberate extra deliberate pause to "load" a little tension on the line is often necessary when an exposed point is bent down a few degrees. - Russ Bassdozer My first thought is that Russ obviously has a lot of time on his hands, not to mention some very advanced research equipment to ascertain all of that detail. My next thought would be that he subscribes to the popular theory that if you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bullsh**.
Quillback Posted January 28, 2015 Author Posted January 28, 2015 QB sure is quiet with all these recent posts over lost fish and hooks. I bet there will be another report late this afternoon from the BIG M. Too nice a day to not be fishing! Darn work, can't live with it or without it. HAHA, yes I was fishing today, better hookups today, I did give them a little more oomph when setting the hook. Thanks for the advice everyone, I'm not too old to learn (yet).
Jerry Rapp Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 My first thought is that Russ obviously has a lot of time on his hands, not to mention some very advanced research equipment to ascertain all of that detail. My next thought would be that he subscribes to the popular theory that if you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bullsh**. sharpen the hook? Champ188 1
dtrs5kprs Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 sharpen the hook? Tricky. That is one problem with needlepoints.
Terrierman Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Tricky. That is one problem with needlepoints. That is why I like those little eze lap sharpeners. You can put a point on a salmon egg hook with those little devils. My standard for a sharp hook is if it wont slide across a fingernail and tries to hang.
dtrs5kprs Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 That is why I like those little eze lap sharpeners. You can put a point on a salmon egg hook with those little devils. My standard for a sharp hook is if it wont slide across a fingernail and tries to hang. I'll look at one. That is one of the reasons I "failed" several different needlepoint options. A rolled point was a trashed head. I can usually tweak the Mustad, if it ever actually rolls. The Gamakatsu is probably a 50/50 deal, but there is a chance of it working.
Terrierman Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I'll look at one. That is one of the reasons I "failed" several different needlepoint options. A rolled point was a trashed head. I can usually tweak the Mustad, if it ever actually rolls. The Gamakatsu is probably a 50/50 deal, but there is a chance of it working. $4.99 at Tackle Warehouse. I just bought four and will send you one in gratitude for the way you have treated me over your jigheads.
Fish24/7 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 My first thought is that Russ obviously has a lot of time on his hands, not to mention some very advanced research equipment to ascertain all of that detail. My next thought would be that he subscribes to the popular theory that if you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bullsh**. I'll text him and tell him you said that,lol it would sound like bs to someone who doesn't understand it
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