wareaglecamo Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 not to worry Champ . . . negative impact to the TRL fish population resulting from the fishing expeditions of Rickf will not be as significant as first thought. . . based on "extended arm reach, close proximity to camera lens and obvious defective weighing techniques" future weight quotes should always be DIVIDED BY TWO dtrs5kprs, Codywskeeter1521, denjac and 1 other 4
dtrs5kprs Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Been fishing this lake since I was 3 years old; that was 58 years ago! I remember in the late 70's, it was standard practice for guides to fillet several of the keeper bass for their clients. Even guys like Bill Beck, who is a big C & R guy these days. B.A.S.S. and other organizations burst onto the scene and changed the landscape for bass fishing. Tournaments popped up everywhere, and the backlash from pictures like this was what caused concern: Bill Dance Guys like Ray Scott and others were smart enough to see that to perpetuate this tournament industry, he needed to make sure that there were enough big bass to support it. So, BASS became a big contributor, financially and otherwise, to C&R programs. Length and slot limits became law and the various conservation groups and agencies came up with studies that showed that C & R worked! I am not a tournament fisherman! Tried it, didn't like it! Loved the comaraderie, hated the competition. Fishing is my relaxation, and my competition is internal, and the reward is an intangible. I have had enough competition in my life. Played college football, run a small business, and have watched and cheered for my Sons as they played sports in High School and College. I don't have a problem with guys that fish tourneys! Most are decent people. (except Tommy Biffle, who is an A-hole!) C & R, it seems, has been a success? So, what about the guy who wants to eat a few fish? I personally have never eaten a bass that tasted that good! Much rather eat tuna, grouper, mahi-mahi or swordfish. Not too many of those in Table Rock? Guys like Rickf are certainly within their rights to keep legal fish and eat them. Guys like Champ188 and others are certainly within their rights to have a differring opinion. If it was up to me, I would say we should all practice C & R. But, if you've ever been around a weigh-in site the next day and seen the floaters, you would know that it isn't a perfect science. If it was up to me, I would ban day-time tournaments from June 1 thru Labor Day. The 2 biggest complaints I hear from visitors: -tournament fishermen cut them off or almost run them over while they are out for a leisurely day of boating/fishing. -fishing boats getting swamped by the wake boats, and "cruise ships" we see on the lake these days To Rickf- love to hear that you're catching some nice fish. But, the 'in yo face' attitude is ridiculous! To Champ188-you remain one of my favorite contributors on this site. Don't let this guy get to you! Poor Tommy...Don hates him and he can't afford to fish in anything but his 6th grade gym shorts. Ham and Champ188 2
abkeenan Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Idk that i can agree with "heavily regulated by government officials with a firm knowledge of the resource and its viability". We are depleting the oceans biodiversity at a much faster rate than the bass fisherman are depleting the bass fishing at table rock. That cant be questioned. I think its much much better and more sustainable to eat locally caught wild, prolific, and abundant fish, than it is to eat incredibly over exploited, highly toxic, and depleted ocean fisheries. Not to mention that the oceans are much more critical to people/life on earth than the lake. It is irresponsible to eat ocean fish, as they do not replenish themselves as fast as humans are taking them out. Look at tuna populations...or any other ocean fish, they are doing much worse off than table rock spots. Farm raised fish get a big fat giant thumbs up from me. That is a great way to feed large numbers of people. Care to site your sources? The word assume strikes again.
mjk86 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Care to site your sources? The word assume strikes again. You and everyone else knows im right, im not going to dig around for primary literature proving how badly we are destroying the oceans (I imagine you would dismiss it anyway), and im not going to play childish semantics games with you. Do what you wish, and so will I.....Either way youll still be catching fish on table rock when you go.
abkeenan Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 You and everyone else knows im right, im not going to dig around for primary literature proving how badly we are destroying the oceans (I imagine you would dismiss it anyway), and im not going to play childish semantics games with you. Do what you wish, and so will I.....Either way youll still be catching fish on table rock when you go. Hey man. Not trying to be a jerk but you just throw out statements as they are facts without any sort of statistical information to back it up. I'm from the "Show Me State".....you have to show me something as evidence before I believe it. Now....Champ from Arkansas and Dave from Kansas...they are a different story. Both highly gullible and will believe anything like even that the Razorbacks and Blue Devils are better than my Tigers in football or basketball. Codywskeeter1521 1
Codywskeeter1521 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Hey man. Not trying to be a jerk but you just throw out statements as they are facts without any sort of statistical information to back it up. I'm from the "Show Me State".....you have to show me something as evidence before I believe it. Now....Champ from Arkansas and Dave from Kansas...they are a different story. Both highly gullible and will believe anything like even that the Razorbacks and Blue Devils are better than my Tigers in football or basketball. Hate to say it. But I seen this coming
Champ188 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Now....Champ from Arkansas and Dave from Kansas...they are a different story. Both highly gullible and will believe anything like even that the Razorbacks and Blue Devils are better than my Tigers in football or basketball. Gonna be a fun 5 months leading up to the Friday after Thanksgiving (Mizzou vs. Arkansas) --- almost as much fun as the game itself. http://www.hogcall.com/funstuff/multimedia/music/Hog_Call.wav Codywskeeter1521 1
abkeenan Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Gonna be a fun 5 months leading up to the Friday after Thanksgiving (Mizzou vs. Arkansas) --- almost as much fun as the game itself. http://www.hogcall.com/funstuff/multimedia/music/Hog_Call.wav Looking forward to it. Codywskeeter1521 1
jolicious Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Looking forward to it. Don't forget how close that lightning was to your dock Champ188 and abkeenan 2
jolicious Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Ya thats the only way i can really rationalize it. Probably a little of both id guess. I know when the meremac floods ull see tons of crawlers right on the bank. You could fill up a bucket! Also....speaking of weights of these fish....I only ever measure length. My biggest spot was 19.25" ill try to post a pic. A few that are 18" or bigger. How much to those weigh? I always assumed an 18= about a 3lber for spots n smallmouth. ONLY ESTIMATES - Trying to avoid the inevitable hundred stories about the 12.5 Spot that weighed 3 pounds - not doubting, just pointing out this is just a quick chart I found online for anyone that wanted a pocket reference. I like the reference to "24.5 inches" mjk86 and Codywskeeter1521 2
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