Asian Carp Problem

[fishinwrench]

Did ya pick up on the key word there?

Biological

 

Your Arkansas fish farmers didn't come up with it on their own.  Nor did they have the resources available to collect and transport across the big pond.  There WERE biologists with big fat degrees stinkin' up the place first.

[Chief Grey Bear]

You never cease to humor me wrench. I never knew that a writer could use the term biological, which means relating to living organism, and it some how means it was biologist that brought a known invasive species half way around the world. It is truly a fascinating world you live in. 

But any any case, it's always been a known fact who brought the fish here and why. 

[Chief Grey Bear]

I'm sorry the factual history of the importation doesn't fit your agenda or conspiracy directive. Stick with it though. You will have some government haters that will hang on your every word. And then you can all meet for doughnuts.

[straw hat]

11 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Does anyone even know their spawning habits and growth rate ?  Weaknesses? Things they just can't tolerate? 

I find it odd that the ONE FISH we can't destroy just happens to be the one we don't want the most.   Ironic isn't it?   C'mon now!  

They can grow up to 4 or 5 lbs per year. A large female of some species can lay up to 4 million eggs at a time. They are scatter spawners laying their eggs where they fall. There eggs are adhesive and stick in place and very tough. They are very adaptive and all efforts to develop an effective control plan have had little success as it usually effects the "good" species as well. There is a large number of commercial fisherman who harvest these species for use in dog and cat food among other things. They do spoil slightly faster than most fish and should be processed soon after harvest. They can occur in schools of 10,000 or more with fish frequently weighting up to 40 lbs. This requires special gill nets and seines to handle the power and bulk of these fish.

Anyway, that is what I have been taught and seen over the years. More info to follow as I dig it up.

[MOPanfisher]

I always laugh when a well fed person complains that we should not.be messing.with biology, or the natural order.  Even funnier when they live on a mad made lake.  Invasive species are invasive for a reason, they are adaptable, reproduce well and tough to eradicate.

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, Chief Grey Bear said:

You never cease to humor me wrench. I never knew that a writer could use the term biological, which means relating to living organism, and it some how means it was biologist that brought a known invasive species half way around the world. It is truly a fascinating world you live in. 

But any any case, it's always been a known fact who brought the fish here and why. 

Really?    Gonna blame it all on a single poor old Arkansas fish farmer ?     Must have been a rich one.....bought his own jet, holding tanks and all just to clean up a few ponds.  Would have been less expensive/less trouble to dig new ponds.   

Whatever dude. You humor me too. 

So now that we've settled THAT.....Who sold the REPUTABLE SOURCES the story (lie?) about the sewage treatment outflows down south ?  And why would they wanna direct blame away from the fish farmer?

You do realize that if we find out the fish farmer had a degree in biology that YOU still have to buy the doughnuts, right ?   

[MOPanfisher]

http://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/cooking/fish-recipes/asian-carp-stick. 

Now just have to find a way to get them to hit a rapala or ned.

[fishinwrench]

Just need to get Ham and his Tenkara gear busy on this one....

[Flysmallie]

17 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said:

http://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/cooking/fish-recipes/asian-carp-stick. 

Now just have to find a way to get them to hit a rapala or ned.

 

Arrows would be more fun. We need a huge bow fishing tournament for them. 

[BilletHead]

       Recipe looks good there Mopanfisher. 

Going to share a story with you all. Many, many moons ago my dad bought two what the guy told him "moss carp" . This would of been in the early eighties at a local fish farm. The fish farm got them from another place in Arkansas. Told dad they would make the water clearer in his pond as they were filter feeders. Once and a while you would see the fish coming up for catfish food with the grass carp. This was a small pond. I once tried out a little three horse air cooled motor on the back of a john boat. All I could do is run in a circle and as some have witnessed those two fish jumped out of the water about taking my head off. After dad passed on a hot dry summer the pond got low and nasty turning greenish and stinking . Allot of the fish died including the "moss carp" . They were bighead most defiantly. It is easy to see how they got started. No not by my dad though. None in our drainage as of yet!

BilletHead