jtram Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Maybe we have all forgotten that our founding fathers were all traitors, who broke the law........ let that sink in. Do you all love the government or do you love what our country (used to) stands for? wrench seems to be the mist logical voice on this board right now
fishinwrench Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 24 minutes ago, jtram said: Maybe we have all forgotten that our founding fathers were all traitors, who broke the law........ let that sink in. Do you all love the government or do you love what our country (used to) stands for? wrench seems to be the mist logical voice on this board right now Well thank you All I'm saying is that SOMETHING has caused those ranchers to think they are within their rights. I'm not willing to discount that just because the feds have taken issue with it.
Mitch f Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 23 minutes ago, fishinwrench said: Well thank you All I'm saying is that SOMETHING has caused those ranchers to think they are within their rights. I'm not willing to discount that just because the feds have taken issue with it. Chief Grey Bear likes this "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
Chief Grey Bear Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 If he does, he'll click *Like*. jolicious and Mitch f 2 Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
Terrierman Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 We need a "you're nucking futs" button. Brian Sloss, ness, Chief Grey Bear and 1 other 4
fishinwrench Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Why is this national news anyway ? Does anyone in Missouri really give 2 shits where the cows in Oregon eat ?
SpoonDog Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 1 hour ago, jtram said: Maybe we have all forgotten that our founding fathers were all traitors, who broke the law........ let that sink in. Do you all love the government or do you love what our country (used to) stands for? wrench seems to be the mist logical voice on this board right now Right, and it was our founding fathers who made sedition illegal. I don't recall Alexander Hamilton advocating for a treasury and the rights of an individual to torch his neighbor's property, I don't recall Franklin's speech in Philadelphia on walking away from contractual obligations. You guys can't seriously believe the Bundy militia has their finger on the pulse of what the founding fathers intended. Look, the rule of law came across the ocean with us, it was around before the revolution and it was enshrined in the Constitution. Again, you don't have to believe me- it's a fact. The founders adopted the rule of law because they believe in the rule of law. They wrote the constitution because believe in the constitution. They created a representative democracy because they believed in a representative democracy. Now, maybe you believe gov't has overstepped its bounds, and that's totally fine. But there's a legal process, there's a democratic process, and the Bundy Bunch aren't interested in participating in that. Call me crazy, but if I were in the position of initiating daily press conferences telling folks I'm defending the constitution, it'd be a whole lot more believable if I, you know- followed the constitution. I mean if their big beef is gov't doesn't abide by the constitution, and they don't abide by the constitution...how is it their @#$!! don't stink? Chief Grey Bear and Quillback 2
Brian Sloss Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 I care because if these militia guys get away with it there, it sets a precedent for them to get away with it in other places, such as our backyard. Chief Grey Bear 1 www.elevenpointflyfishing.com www.elevenpointcottages.com (417)270-2497
fishinwrench Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Once again....They have the authority and the obligation to arrest them when they break the law. I'm through talking about it until someone gets charged. I like beef.
fishinwrench Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, Brian Sloss said: I care because if these militia guys get away with it there, it sets a precedent for them to get away with it in other places, such as our backyard. Not if it's against the law, man.
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