Streamgauge data collection on both USGS gauges on the Big Piney may be discontinued on January 1, 2017

[msamatt]

Folks,

  There are only 2 USGS gauges on the Big Piney (06930000 Big Piney River near Big Piney, MO and 06930060 Big Piney River below Ft. Leonard Wood).  They may discontinue streamgauge data collection activities in the new year  (see below).  Please write to Mr. Rydlund.

NOTICE: Streamgage data collection activities may be discontinued at this location on January 1, 2017, due to lack of funding.  For inquiries concerning this streamgage, contact Paul Rydlund at  prydlund@usgs.gov or 573-308-3572.

[Mitch f]

23 minutes ago, msamatt said:

Folks,

  There are only 2 USGS gauges on the Big Piney (06930000 Big Piney River near Big Piney, MO and 06930060 Big Piney River below Ft. Leonard Wood).  They may discontinue streamgauge data collection activities in the new year  (see below).  Please write to Mr. Rydlund.

NOTICE: Streamgage data collection activities may be discontinued at this location on January 1, 2017, due to lack of funding.  For inquiries concerning this streamgage, contact Paul Rydlund at  prydlund@usgs.gov or 573-308-3572.

Thanks for the info Matt

[fishinwrench]

The USGS is short on money ?

Whose fault is that ?

[jdmidwest]

20 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

The USGS is short on money ?

Whose fault is that ?

Their earthquake monitoring sites seem to keep running without any threats.  Faults seem to be self sufficient.

[Smalliebigs]

On Wednesday, December 07, 2016 at 7:44 PM, msamatt said:

Folks,

  There are only 2 USGS gauges on the Big Piney (06930000 Big Piney River near Big Piney, MO and 06930060 Big Piney River below Ft. Leonard Wood).  They may discontinue streamgauge data collection activities in the new year  (see below).  Please write to Mr. Rydlund.

NOTICE: Streamgage data collection activities may be discontinued at this location on January 1, 2017, due to lack of funding.  For inquiries concerning this streamgage, contact Paul Rydlund at  prydlund@usgs.gov or 573-308-3572.

What a complete  joke...and to think I am going to have to pay a 10% excise tax on the lures we are manufacturing in our start up business. Where does the money go???

[jdmidwest]

Look at the parent site, the main url to see where their funding goes.  Its not hard, unless you can't stomach it.  Just watch the banner and see.

https://www.usgs.gov/

Faults are a concern.  Important stream data is too.  Volcano and Landslides.  But the main theme on the banner is the all important "Global Problem", the nasty we don't talk about here any more.  It looks like it may be the fund sucker.  The "Fault".

[Al Agnew]

52 minutes ago, Smalliebigs said:

What a complete  joke...and to think I am going to have to pay a 10% excise tax on the lures we are manufacturing in our start up business. Where does the money go???

Actually by law the USGS can't get any of that money, it goes to state fish and game departments (MDC).

Maybe USGS is spending more money than they should on one thing or another (like the nasty subject), but I'm not sure they are spending all that much on that subject compared to other government agencies.  Figure out a way to make everybody who uses the real time gauges pay a little bit for them and it would solve the problem.  I'd pay $20 a year to use them...about the same as a fishing and hunting license.

The thing that gets me about this is that they are threatening to shut down both Piney gauges.  Actually the two are rather redundant, since they aren't all that far apart and there is only one decent creek coming into the river between the two.  Shut down one of them, keep the other running.

[jdmidwest]

We all pay for them each year on April 15 when we file taxes, or quarterly. 

I don't see notices about closing down fault monitoring or any other sensors. Why do they always pick on stream gauge?   They should be cheap to operate. 

[MOPanfisher]

I can only speak to the ones around here, but the USGS installs and maintains them for a fee, we pay for the ones on the lake, and the two main tribs, plus downstream.  Honestly don't remember what the cost per year is, but I do know that they can be paid for by other agencies if they wish to keep them.

[Smalliebigs]

13 hours ago, Al Agnew said:

Actually by law the USGS can't get any of that money, it goes to state fish and game departments (MDC).

Maybe USGS is spending more money than they should on one thing or another (like the nasty subject), but I'm not sure they are spending all that much on that subject compared to other government agencies.  Figure out a way to make everybody who uses the real time gauges pay a little bit for them and it would solve the problem.  I'd pay $20 a year to use them...about the same as a fishing and hunting license.

The thing that gets me about this is that they are threatening to shut down both Piney gauges.  Actually the two are rather redundant, since they aren't all that far apart and there is only one decent creek coming into the river between the two.  Shut down one of them, keep the other running.

agreed Al......I would gladly give a fee for use of the gauges as I use both NOAA and USGS gauges on a daily basis.