thewhitesnoop Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 fishinwrench - I don't think I ever said 50 fish is an average day. I was surprised that it was a "banner day". I would think banner day would suggest that is your best day ever, or at least one of them. I'm sure Hog has had days that where better than that, hence I was surprised. I also realize the Meramec isn't a great river for numbers however. 50 fish is a below average day for me, especially when fishing with a partner, if you must know. I however only count bass over 12 inches (although everything gets thrown back, catch and release all the way). Fish under 12 inches we do not count in our total. If my partner and I go out and fish all day and don't catch 100 keepers, honestly we are disappointed. If we counted ALL fish, on days when you are catching 2 or 3 sub 12" bass for every keeper, that total can get pretty high. It wasn't always that way. Back in the mid 90's we thought 30-40 keepers was really pounding them. We learned a lot over the years, by trial and error and using our own brain and not listening to magazine articles that always tell you the same old thing or learning from the message board gurus. Also, unlike "The Master" Al Agnew, we measure our fish with a measuring bump board, not a paddle. So that way if we catch a largemouth that we claim was 22" it was actually 22". I don't know about that if you are measuring with a paddle. Also, unlike Al, if we have a tough day on the water, we don't make an excuse and blame it on meat hunters. We try to evaluate what we could have done differently and learn from it. We aren't so arrogant that we think just because we didn't catch them, they weren't in the river because meat hunters must have gotten them.
Root Admin Phil Lilley Posted August 17, 2017 Root Admin Posted August 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, thewhitesnoop said: fishinwrench - I don't think I ever said 50 fish is an average day. I was surprised that it was a "banner day". I would think banner day would suggest that is your best day ever, or at least one of them. I'm sure Hog has had days that where better than that, hence I was surprised. I also realize the Meramec isn't a great river for numbers however. 50 fish is a below average day for me, especially when fishing with a partner, if you must know. I however only count bass over 12 inches (although everything gets thrown back, catch and release all the way). Fish under 12 inches we do not count in our total. If my partner and I go out and fish all day and don't catch 100 keepers, honestly we are disappointed. If we counted ALL fish, on days when you are catching 2 or 3 sub 12" bass for every keeper, that total can get pretty high. It wasn't always that way. Back in the mid 90's we thought 30-40 keepers was really pounding them. We learned a lot over the years, by trial and error and using our own brain and not listening to magazine articles that always tell you the same old thing or learning from the message board gurus. Also, unlike "The Master" Al Agnew, we measure our fish with a measuring bump board, not a paddle. So that way if we catch a largemouth that we claim was 22" it was actually 22". I don't know about that if you are measuring with a paddle. Also, unlike Al, if we have a tough day on the water, we don't make an excuse and blame it on meat hunters. We try to evaluate what we could have done differently and learn from it. We aren't so arrogant that we think just because we didn't catch them, they weren't in the river because meat hunters must have gotten them. What brought this on? I thought we were on the uphill climb out of the pit. Did someone send you a nasty PM? Hog Wally 1
thewhitesnoop Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 No Phil. No one did that. I was simply responding to wrench with a little added detail. And I didn't mean any disrespect to wrench.
Flysmallie Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 The BS is pretty deep in here. Mitch f and Daryk Campbell Sr 2
thewhitesnoop Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 I know, it has to be hard to believe that we could catch that many fish without throwing a midge Oreno, twin spin spinnerbait or homemade walk the dog topwater 😂
MoCarp Posted August 17, 2017 Posted August 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Phil Lilley said: That's why I created this site in 1997. As long as I have a say here, those things will be encouraged. WOW Phil has it been that long??? no wonder I have a little less giddy up-in my get-a-long!.....as a Carp angler I understand not sharing spots to some degree, yet it warmed my heart that 20 years after I posted some great area carp fishing, I saw several young people carp fishing my old spots, and turning them loose so someone else can get their reels screaming and line pealing off their reels, Then hearing them say "I wish we had started fishing for carp a long time ago this is fun".............quietly I smiled and thought this is why OAF is still around and strong when other forums are dead.... Hog Wally and Daryk Campbell Sr 2 MONKEYS? what monkeys?
Hog Wally Posted August 18, 2017 Author Posted August 18, 2017 i read through this thread and wonder if I was visiting this forum for the first time if I would ever visit it again. It makes some of us look really idiotic. This is completely ridiculous. timinmo 1
Hog Wally Posted August 18, 2017 Author Posted August 18, 2017 Meanwhile, timinmo and Daryk Campbell Sr 2
Seth Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 @thewhitesnoop how long do you guys usually fish? Too catch 100 fish, much less 100 keepers, in ten hours, you would have to average a fish every 6 minutes.
thewhitesnoop Posted August 18, 2017 Posted August 18, 2017 On average we are off the water between 5:00-7:00pm Sometimes later during the summer, earlier in the winter obviously Are you figuring two guys fishing and not just one?
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