Fishing property

[MoCarp]

If that is the case, a well run UK style carp syndicate would be a $ maker, it would take legwork to buy large carp to stock (over 20#) but carp are harvested or removed from upper midwest lakes every winter, last time I checked a 20# common carp goes for $60 deliverd live to NC.SC/WV Paylakes, if you had just 1 fish over 50 you could make big bucks! take about 5 years to get a mid 30 up to the 50 pound class, that was what the KC Brit was looking for...the dynamics of a well run syndicate is a cottage industry...whats funny is that those fish get extremely hard to catch, people pay money to go a week lucky to get 2 or 3 bites, if one was near the greater Branson area, the bivvy sites would be busy year round

once it "takes" here in the states that price will be out of control like overseas we can get UK bloodline fish here in the states, but they are pricy getting fish to 80# might take 8-9 years with the right genetics and feeding...a fish that big or bigger would make a man rich

[MOPanfisher]

So why are carp folks not stepping up to build and stock these money making lakes.

[MoCarp]

16 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said:

So why are carp folks not stepping up to build and stock these money making lakes.

I know of 3 being started, one in Kansas, one near Austin,Texas and one in California its only be possible as there is a carp operation here in the US that has the fish,  with the "right" genes Dinks / leeney bloodlines

we have always had "paylakes" mostly fishing gambling IMHO

only know of one pay lake near St Joe thats even close, they have had issues getting fish, one reason the price keeps going up

[MOPanfisher]

I used to help with a pay catfish lake, but it was not a pareticular money maker.  I hope that folks can make a geat living with pay lakes and breeding up their carp for folks to catch.  It's a huge investment, the land, lake and the proper breeding and management, I like when folks are successful.

[MoCarp]

5 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said:

I used to help with a pay catfish lake, but it was not a pareticular money maker.  I hope that folks can make a geat living with pay lakes and breeding up their carp for folks to catch.  It's a huge investment, the land, lake and the proper breeding and management, I like when folks are successful.

I miss the days when people had pay ponds around here usually a honor box at a gate, some of my fondest memories of my early adult hood had been fishing some of them, for whatever reason people stopped having pay ponds

one that was VERY good was just east of joplin, lots of people fished it and it was well stocked, banks mowed a great place to take kids to fish, I remember the day the owner told me he was shutting it down soon because of insurance reasons, that place had produced LMB over 103 and the best string of bass I ever caught came out of there. We lost a great fishing hole,. several east of Carthage have long since shut down,

we do have some places that have gotten better the MDC has done some good work north hear Mindenmines and some of the small managed areas, The feds have filled many a strip pit closing some dandy fishing spots, and are dragging their feet with the project near webbcity high school, 

[tjm]

Any of the wide ridge tops from Siloam to Hiwassee to  Avoca/ Pearidge  have red dirt that will make ponds, around Centerton and Bentonville the areas used to hold water naturally and have crawdads miles from real water.  I'd stay away from streams because of the public they attract.

[Old plug]

I got to wonder about the Liability of owning a strip pit. I used to fish a lot of them in central Illinois. Most were on land owned buy a coal company that has moved on. They always had them posted. Maybe that is enough for some outfit like Peabody Coal. God only knows the number folks they have killed over time and got away with it. But I am not sure posting would keep a individual out of trouble in the present day courts. My son was a full time swimming pool builder before he switched to Industrial & commercial property management. There were so many legal pitfalls in owning a pool it was one of the reasons he never built one for himself. I think it would be about the same for the little guy.