Johnsfolly Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 When we were at the Johnson Shut-ins last week, I saw several different species of fish that I would love to catch including several greenside darters and a couple of logperch. The logperch is one of Missouri's largest darter species and one species that I had not yet seen let alone had the opportunity to catch. Also this area also has the brook darter. I didn't get to fish the last time down, so I packed up my daughter and we went yesterday as sort of a pre-Father's day event. BilletHead has started discussions on several occasions about what would you do for a single fish, drive 40 minutes, 2 hours, 4 hours, ... I have always felt that it could be worth it for the experience. With that in mind we set off at 5:45 am to the Black river to fish below the shut-ins (ended up as a 420 mile round trip) for the hope of catching a brook darter, greenside darter, and/or a logperch. Knowing that you cannot fish in the designated swim areas I had a plan to pack in our fishing gear and hike down river. We ended up on a trail that headed up the hills above the shut-ins. Finally we found a side trail that headed back down towards the river. We did see a couple of lizards along the way including this male fence lizard. You can just make out his blue patch of breeding coloration on his side. Believe it or not, Livie was not able to catch this guy. Don't worry she caught a few other things with her hands (more on them later). After an invigorating hike with a couple of white knuckle slides, we made it to the river. Saw lots of fish including many darters right off the bat. Could be a good day! We got the rods rigged up and baited (using in nightcrawler pieces instead of redworms because that's what we had at home). Of course Livie caught a small green sufish right off - with her HANDS ! Then she caught one with her rod. While she was catching sunfish, I focused on trying after the micros around me. I caught a few bleeding shiners right off the bat before I targeted the darters around us. We each targeted the more colorful darters, which were likely to be the males. Based upon their size, I was fairly certain that we had caught brook darters. It was not until I uploaded the photos that it became apparent that we had in fact caught small rainbow darters. Still nice looking fish, but somewhat disappointed because If I had looked closer at them we could have kept fishing for the brooks. After catching these guys, I focused on trying to find and catch some other darters. Livie was excited catching a bunch of longear sunfish which is always the case when you catch the first few . I was even happy to catch a few as a break from trying not to fall on the slick rocks (Note use felts soled boots if you have them!) and hunting for some new species. I found a spot that had a few greenside darters. Livie was first up to try for these guys. This is a species that can be difficult to get on a bait or to catch once they do go after your bait. Livie suffered through both scenarios with one of two fish just being spooked by the bait or not being able to get a hook set on the fish if it did bite. She got very frustrated and gave me the rod. I had a bit better success in terms of getting fish interested in the baits, but never got one hooked. I lifted a few out of the water and one actually flew out of the water and almost landed in the catch bag Livie was holding. Both of us were frustrated and moved on. Didn't get another chance at any greenside darters. Another frustration was trying to hook the nightcrawler pieces onto the small hooks, The worm pieces were a bit large and did not stay on the hooks very well. Livie did get a nice hand caught bullfrog tadpole as a consolation prize. I chased studfish and blackstripe topminnows as I continued downstream, but either spooked them or could not get them hooked. I came up to a large deeper pool. I caught sight of a large striped darter, the first logperch sighting!! I just had a topminnow strip my bait and had to call Livie to head back down to me with the bait and the rest of our gear. I spooked the first one that I tried to get on my bait. I didn't see another one for 5 or 10 mins. Then there were two in a spot about 20 feet from me. I snuck up to them and spooked them again. This time they came back quickly to the same spot. I dropped my bait and got bit as soon as it hit the water, it was a longear sunfish, then another, and another. I started seeing more logperch, but every one of them seemed to be surrounded by two or more sunfish. I ended up putting on another sinker to get the bait quickly through the gauntlet of sunfish down to the logperch. Once the bait got down to the darters, they would go after it or the sinkers or the bait or sinkers.... Or another sunfish! Finally the cry of "Get the bag.. Get the bag!" rang out and the first logperch of the day was in the bag. Livie was up next and she had much the same experience with about 15 to 20 sunfish caught before she caught her logperch near this brush. Unfortunately it did not get into the bag for a photo. She was heartbroken and spent another 20 plus minutes trying for another one only to catch at least another 7 or 8 sunfish. Severely dehydrated we left and hiked back to the car. We got dinner at Kettlehut smokehouse in Festus MO and split a piece of their lemon cheesecake pie! This post has been promoted to an article BilletHead, Deadstream, Greasy B and 6 others 8 1
Ham Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 Logperch are Cool! My first I caught on a Zig Jig. My second came on a Micro crankbait. CajunAngler caught one on a Ned Rig from Bull Shoals Lake! poor Livie always comes up short when it’s picture taking time. (Carp) fence lizards are really tough to catch once it warms up. A little easier when it is cooler weather. Congrats on the Log Perch ! Johnsfolly 1 Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish
evilcatfish Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 Awesome post and fantastic pictures my friend! I think I'm visiting the shut ins later this week actually Johnsfolly 1
Johnsfolly Posted June 17, 2018 Author Posted June 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, evilcatfish said: Awesome post and fantastic pictures my friend! I think I'm visiting the shut ins later this week actually If you don't like crowds get there early. After noon it just gets really crowded.
Johnsfolly Posted June 17, 2018 Author Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Ham said: Logperch are Cool! My first I caught on a Zig Jig. My second came on a Micro crankbait. CajunAngler caught one on a Ned Rig from Bull Shoals Lake! Dan Hufferd caught one in Stockton a couple of years ago. I believe that he was using a jigging spoon. If we were not surrounded by sunfish, we could have caught a few. They were not shy but just a little slower than the sunfish in taking the bait!
Ham Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, Johnsfolly said: They were not shy but just a little slower than the sunfish in taking the bait! As opposed to Greensides which are the living embodiment of over cautious. darn things are scared of their shadow. Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish
Johnsfolly Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 They are less cautious than stonerollers. Those are tight lipped fish!
Ham Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Johnsfolly said: They are less cautious than stonerollers. Those are tight lipped fish! They hates us. Johnsfolly 1 Every Saint has a past, every Sinner has a future. On Instagram @hamneedstofish
Flysmallie Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Very cool. I've been wanting a logperch for my aquarium. Johnsfolly 1
Al Agnew Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 You have to work at it to get logperch to do well in an aquarium. They only want live food. I've gotten them trained to eat thawed out frozen fish food--brine shrimp and bloodworms. But you have to thaw the food, it has to be little whole critters, and assuming you have other fish in with the logperch, you have to dump in a bunch of it at once so that enough of it sinks to the bottom before the other fish get to it that some gets into cracks in the gravel and goes unnoticed by them. The logperch will hunt by flipping little pieces of gravel with their conical snouts, and sooner or later they flip a rock that has one of those freshly thawed critters, and then it will eat. Eventually it gets used to the frozen critters and will actively go after them when you first put them in. If you have access to a little creek or other body of water that has live aquatic insects, you can gather food for them that they'll eat immediately. I have a wet-weather creek behind the house that has permanent pools here and there, and some kind of little free-swimming larva get thick in them at times. I scoop them up with a little dip net if I want to have fun watching my aquarium fish chase them down. By the way...my aquarium, which sits in the entryway to the living room/dining room, next to the front door, and is who knows how many gallons (something like 6 feet by 16 inches) is temporarily out of order. A fitting on the filter pump hose came loose, the hose slipped out of the aquarium, and the pump pumped 3/4ths of the water out onto the floor in the middle of the night, just before we left for Scotland. It has taken more than two weeks for the ServPro people to get my hardwood floors dried! BilletHead 1
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