Larry Dablemont Article

[fishinwrench]

13 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said:

Basically MDC simply ignores him.

That's fine, as long as the ones paying you are not upset or concerned.  But if they are (even SOME of them) then IMO you are obligated to respond.  

Am I out of line for thinking that?  

[Ryan Miloshewski]

4 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

That's fine, as long as the ones paying you are not upset or concerned.  But if they are (even SOME of them) then IMO you are obligated to respond.  

Am I out of line for thinking that?  

Sometimes I wonder if one day I'll wake up and everything he's said turns out to be true, like some sort of alternate reality lol. Fat chance, but wouldn't it be funny?

[MoCarp]

sometimes the craziness reported turns out to be true...here is a link to some interesting things that turned out to be true

 

https://www.rd.com/culture/conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/

[fishinwrench]

7 minutes ago, Ryan Miloshewski said:

Sometimes I wonder if one day I'll wake up and everything he's said turns out to be true, like some sort of alternate reality lol. Fat chance, but wouldn't it be funny?

Maybe some folks have woken up before you?   And they ain't laughing 😊

[MOPanfisher]

1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

That's fine, as long as the ones paying you are not upset or concerned.  But if they are (even SOME of them) then IMO you are obligated to respond.  

Am I out of line for thinking that?  

In my opinion yes and no.  For a state (or federal agency) there will always be some who are upset regardless of what you do. You can explain it or even 2 or 3 times but eventually you simply move on. In MDC case (also the old MSWP, AKC and a few others)  they have known him long enough to know that responding only encourages him.  The new MDC director did try, she actually met with him, prior to the meeting it was all about how he was going to get to he bottom of things.  Oddly that didn't happen.  I have nothing against Larry, he is what he is and I don't try to make him any more than that.

He is very good at taking a few grains of fact, mixing it with some opinions and a large dosage of bias and creating his version of investigative reporting.  There are reasons few papers carry his columns any more and it has nothing to do with any agency black balling him.  He has simply written himself into a corner.  Which is sort of sad, at times he has the ability to write some good stories, but then they drift off.

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[Terrierman]

1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

That's fine, as long as the ones paying you are not upset or concerned.  But if they are (even SOME of them) then IMO you are obligated to respond.  

Am I out of line for thinking that?  

You're not out of line, just wrong.

My theory is different than yours.  It goes like this.  You can't please everybody so don't even try.  Just do the best you can and show up every day.  In the long run, it works.  At least it did for me.

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, Terrierman said:

You're not out of line, just wrong.

My theory is different than yours.  It goes like this.  You can't please everybody so don't even try.  Just do the best you can and show up every day.  In the long run, it works.  At least it did for me.

Doing the best you can includes being responsible enough to respond to concerns.  

If somebody (Ham) says "Wrench sold me a motor with a bad water pump, and assured me that it was fresh and working fine.  He bold-faced lied to me".  I would at least say that I didn't bold face lie, what actually happened was that I aquired the motor with a fresh water pump, it was test run before I ever took possession of it and it was pumping water just fine.  Just before delivering it to him I realized the tiller arm bushings were sloppy, so I quickly replaced them and test ran it one more time.  It fired right up, shifted fine, and was pumping water, so I put fresh gear lube in it and dropped it off to his buddy in Springfield.  I made a whopping 60.00 on the deal.    Something went wrong between then and a month later....and Ham still hates me to this day over it and has shared his side of the story plenty.   Maybe somebody started it out of the water before taking a trip out of state....I dunno, but that's what I suspect.    I've been open for a debate about it to anyone who cared to discuss it, and there has been about 4 of them.   

That's the right way to handle bad press, not just pretending to ignore it, declaring him a Wack Job, pleading the 5th, and waiting out the statute of limitations.  

[MOPanfisher]

Individual vs agency not even remotely the same.  Also If that same person was weekly saying wrench is a bad mechanic, doesn't know how to fish, couldnt change the spark plug on a chainsaw and routinely puts propellers in backwards every day for years, would you still be responding or would you have written him off and let your reputation stand on its merits.

[fishinwrench]

40 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said:

Individual vs agency not even remotely the same.  Also If that same person was weekly saying wrench is a bad mechanic, doesn't know how to fish, couldnt change the spark plug on a chainsaw and routinely puts propellers in backwards every day for years, would you still be responding or would you have written him off and let your reputation stand on its merits.

If I had already spoken my piece, attempted to clear things up, and they still kept on with the slander, then yeah I'd blow them off, after inviting them to PROVE IT.   MDC, to my knowledge, has never openly addressed any of it, and I think doing so is past due.  It isn't like they don't have time.   

Enough has been spread around that if I was MDC I would have a forum titled "Open Discussion of LD claims and insinuations".   

[fishinwrench]

47 minutes ago, MOPanfisher said:

Individual vs agency not even remotely the same.

Correct.  Being an Agency makes it even easier.  They have more people available to disprove outright lies.