Baby trout?

[MOPanfisher]

Please show the quotes where  we or a least I said that.  ANY species, whether native or no can become invasive and cause negative impacts depending on the circumstances.

[MoCarp]

1 hour ago, MOPanfisher said:

Please show the quotes where  we or a least I said that.  ANY species, whether native or no can become invasive and cause negative impacts depending on the circumstances.

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As per Executive Order 13112 an "invasive species" is defined as a species that is: 1) non-native (or alien) to the ecosystem under consideration and. 2) whose introduction causes or is likely to cause economic or environmental harm or harm to human health.

https://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/whatis.shtml

 

it is my contention that common carp do not meat the criteria other than they are non-native just like many beloved game fish and animals

all trout... striped bass....muskies are non-natives on the invasive list however are an economic plus and do-not cause human harm in most cases... common carp can cause increased phosphates to be suspended in the water IF certain conditions are met, a silt dominate bottom, excessive richness of nutrients in a lake, frequently due to runoff from the land man has modified, which can cause a dense growth of plant life and death of animal life from lack of oxygen. Common carp support an extensive economic industry of over $8 billion a year and can be managed as a plus in many waters and some states are doing so

the grieve I get on this forum is that if that happens " it will make YOUR fav fishing suffer", which is not as likely as common carp have been in our waters for 140 years and if anything removing them seems to cost a major prey item to press like bass, walleyes and crappies. arguing that believe fish like LMB can't or rarely impact fisheries is a negative manner is semantics...

 

normally I don't hijack threads and we are closer on many issues than it would seem, so relax there are no CT like carp regulations in our area...at least not yet 😉

 

[MOPanfisher]

You just can't stay on target.  You quoted me and then posted something that had absolutely nothing to do with what I said.   Also not ALL muskie are non native.

[MoCarp]

3 hours ago, MOPanfisher said:

You just can't stay on target.  You quoted me and then posted something that had absolutely nothing to do with what I said.   Also not ALL muskie are non native.

where in Missouri are muskies "native"?????

[MOPanfisher]

 I did not say "Missouri". Since you use information, quotes and "data" from all over the world I thought you would understand.

[tjm]

Any non native specie that becomes naturalized is invasive

Executive orders are just random thoughts put on paper and subject to revision when the executive sobers up or gets replaced.

[Foghorn]

Fished Roaring a week ago and lots of small 3-4" rainbows and not a lot of anything else. Mrs. T wasn't happy with the lack of decent fish and we headed back to Bennett Springs. Not sure what was going on-not as many fish in rearing pools. Figure it has to do with the construction plans on the hatchery this fall.