Whites, Hybrids and Stripers?

[Old plug]

Anybody on here ever caught a big Hibrids( 5lbs or better) on the surface??? I have caught 4 or 5 over the years jigging breaks 15 to 20 ft when the smaller ones are  chasing shad on the surface. Makes me think the big ones have a differant behavior pattern  Sort of reminds me of big catfish that follow under the whites and Hybrids scooping up what the surface feeder kill and stun as they sink to the bottom. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[navery]

 From what I have read and spoken to others about, the theory behind these thumpers working on stripers is because it mimics the sound of the augers in the feeding trucks while they were at the hatcheries. They are conditioned to feed when they here that sound. Never talked to anyone about using it on whites.

[nomolites]

6 hours ago, Old plug said:

Anybody on here ever caught a big Hibrids( 5lbs or better) on the surface??? I have caught 4 or 5 over the years jigging breaks 15 to 20 ft when the smaller ones are  chasing shad on the surface. Makes me think the big ones have a differant behavior pattern  Sort of reminds me of big catfish that follow under the whites and Hybrids scooping up what the surface feeder kill and stun as they sink to the bottom.

 

Plug, 

I have caught them on top...rattling chug bug fished very fast...but they have to be feeding up for that to work.  Does not seem to happen often; I don’t even keep one on deck anymore in the summer as I catch most deeper on cranks or spoons.

Mike

[nomolites]

9 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

 

Well?

Worth a try, or just a good way to get a headache ?

Headache...

Mike

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, navery said:

 From what I have read and spoken to others about, the theory behind these thumpers working on stripers is because it mimics the sound of the augers in the feeding trucks while they were at the hatcheries. They are conditioned to feed when they here that sound. Never talked to anyone about using it on whites.

Well I'm convinced that a boat or PWC passing overhead causes them to gang up and go on a temporary blitz.

On the shallow flats they are spread out most of the time and you have to move all over casting your arm off just picking up one/two at a time.  So I'm wondering if something like that would pull them together into one general area?

My true thought is that it might work the first couple times, but if you kept doing it repeatedly they would either start ignoring it or maybe even leave the area.

[snagged in outlet 3]

Boom box might work with the bass cranked up.  Maybe the death metal fans.

[Old plug]

I just cannot get over how the big Hybrids seem to act like a big catfish. I have visions of them swinning along mouth open scooping up fresh  and dying shad like a vacuum cleaner. I have had some real nice experiences with big cats while bottom jigging for whites. Earlier this year I had just bought a now front depth finder. Was not certain what just i was seeing yet. We were bottom jigging and I seen this rather large glob on the bottom.  I knew cats looked like that on my old finder but this seemed a bit to large for a cat. Out of curiosity I flipped any spoon over the top of it expecting to get hung up in a small bush. And in the first seconds I thought I had. Then this bush started moving out slowly no head shake no nothing just moving well enough to turn my boats bow 90 degrees before the hook pulled out of what I bet was a 60 lber or better that I foul hooked. I hope I see that thing again and hook it in the mouth.

[nomolites]

4 hours ago, Old plug said:

I just cannot get over how the big Hybrids seem to act like a big catfish. I have visions of them swinning along mouth open scooping up fresh  and dying shad like a vacuum cleaner. I have had some real nice experiences with big cats while bottom jigging for whites. Earlier this year I had just bought a now front depth finder. Was not certain what just i was seeing yet. We were bottom jigging and I seen this rather large glob on the bottom.  I knew cats looked like that on my old finder but this seemed a bit to large for a cat. Out of curiosity I flipped any spoon over the top of it expecting to get hung up in a small bush. And in the first seconds I thought I had. Then this bush started moving out slowly no head shake no nothing just moving well enough to turn my boats bow 90 degrees before the hook pulled out of what I bet was a 60 lber or better that I foul hooked. I hope I see that thing again and hook it in the mouth.

Well, I am amazed at the LOZ blue cats behaving more like bass.....I catch a ton of them on crankbaits suspended while walleye fishing and it’s no wonder to me why the Lake is now a fav of catfish circuits.  We have some big’ns and lots of them.

Mike

[Old plug]

I have known for a long time they show up on the bottom under feeding whites. I seen a woman boat one over 50 one evening. guy with her weighed it with some help from me and it his scale was limited to 50 and went there real fast..  I have caught enough of them under White that I sometimes use a small wire leader  on my spoon.I had big one chew off right by my boat. 

[navery]

On 9/20/2018 at 11:08 AM, fishinwrench said:

Well I'm convinced that a boat or PWC passing overhead causes them to gang up and go on a temporary blitz.

On the shallow flats they are spread out most of the time and you have to move all over casting your arm off just picking up one/two at a time.  So I'm wondering if something like that would pull them together into one general area?

My true thought is that it might work the first couple times, but if you kept doing it repeatedly they would either start ignoring it or maybe even leave the area.

I wonder if them blitzing after a boat/ PWC passes by has to do with the noise or more with stunning and/or disorienting that year's shad on the surface with prop wash and scattering, leaving the hybrids an advantage that they have learned? Could be one or both, but I will have to keep a weathered eye out for this behavior from now on.