This should get MoCarp all fired up ...

[JohnP]

8 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

The bowfishers I know hardly ever target Asian carp.   It's all about commons, buffalo, and gar for them.   Not sure why.

Well for us down in the southwest part of the state it's because my boy probably shot only one ;).

 

Most of what we see are commons and gar so that's what is targeted and for the record I have no issue with imposing a lower limit on them especially with the growing popularity, tournament, and guides out just about every night.  

CarpOflage ;).

Cant leave out the gar ;).

 

[MoCarp]

some states it is legal to shoot some gamefish like small mouth bass, catfish even muskies and walleyes there are limits

[MOPanfisher]

True, and missouri used to have no limit on carp.  Not actually sure if there is now or not.  Would hate to be an agent and have to write a ticket to someone who was "over limit" on common carp.

[MoCarp]

6 hours ago, MOPanfisher said:

True, and missouri used to have no limit on carp.  Not actually sure if there is now or not.  Would hate to be an agent and have to write a ticket to someone who was "over limit" on common carp.

Rough fish are 20 fish and common carp at one time were included, however with the rise of asian carp commons got tossed it the unlimited numbers by any and all methods I think a 100 fish limit may be in effect on the Mississippi... now you can kill as many commons as you want... culling thats shooting a buffalo/gar and tossing it back to keep a heaver fish in say a big 20 tourney is not legal but happens far too often...from what I hear from my Texas Biologist friends we may see Texas adopt a tag system on Alligator gar soon that would leave Louisiana the last state with unfettered harvest on gator gar

some states have a system of managing a water on its own unique merits, some waters should have a more generous limits (or lack there of) to promote that waters potential ...like a trophy trout or SMB stream...or put and take fisheries for people who love fish dinners, and waters are not static and over the years fish population dynamics change this has happened in CT on some waters that produce monster common carp and people travel there to fish for them and spend their  $ just like people travel here to fish for trout in Taney or bass in TR or go on a ozark float trip. Currently I know of no water in our area that is seeking better regulations to enhance an established trophy common carp fishery however we do have a few waters that could be groomed in that direction

[MOPanfisher]

Good thing you mentioned the Alligator Gar in Texas, trout in Taneycomo, and bass in TR since that is so directly related.  Come I expected much better, if that is all you got, I have a shower to work on tiling.😁

Shooting and dumping a gar is certainly something I hate to see and would love to see a few folks get tickets if doing it.  Gar are part of the normal healthy ecosystem. 

[JohnP]

3 hours ago, MoCarp said:

Rough fish are 20 fish and common carp at one time were included, however with the rise of asian carp commons got tossed it the unlimited numbers by any and all methods I think a 100 fish limit may be in effect on the Mississippi... now you can kill as many commons as you want... culling thats shooting a buffalo/gar and tossing it back to keep a heaver fish in say a big 20 tourney is not legal but happens far too often...from what I hear from my Texas Biologist friends we may see Texas adopt a tag system on Alligator gar soon that would leave Louisiana the last state with unfettered harvest on gator gar

some states have a system of managing a water on its own unique merits, some waters should have a more generous limits (or lack there of) to promote that waters potential ...like a trophy trout or SMB stream...or put and take fisheries for people who love fish dinners, and waters are not static and over the years fish population dynamics change this has happened in CT on some waters that produce monster common carp and people travel there to fish for them and spend their  $ just like people travel here to fish for trout in Taney or bass in TR or go on a ozark float trip. Currently I know of no water in our area that is seeking better regulations to enhance an established trophy common carp fishery however we do have a few waters that could be groomed in that direction

Limit is 20 on "Carp" but if you read further into it further explains.  Personally as stated earlier I'd support a limit and half of that ;).  

"Goldfish, bighead carp, common carp, grass carp, and silver carp may be possessed in any number and do not count in the daily or possession limit.

Bighead carp, common carp, grass carp, and silver carp that jump from the water into a boat or onto land may also be taken and possessed in any number."

 

[tjm]

That 20 is total of  all rough fish together, not just carp and by bow?

Yet if I use lines I can take 50? possess a 100?

I watched a carp man haul in doubles and triples of common carp on a throw line with about twenty droppers. More than once.  Should worry about the bait fishers taking 50 commons a day and canning them they make pretty good fish patties. Two daily limits could feed you for a year.  And we could run completely  out of carp.

[MoCarp]

5 hours ago, tjm said:

That 20 is total of  all rough fish together, not just carp and by bow?

by any legal method common carp are unlimited and have been for a number of years now

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Yet if I use lines I can take 50? possess a 100?

looks like you can take 20 unsure if dumping them in a ditch counts as being "possessed"  though

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I watched a carp man haul in doubles and triples of common carp on a throw line with about twenty droppers. More than once.  Should worry about the bait fishers taking 50 commons a day and canning them they make pretty good fish patties. Two daily limits could feed you for a year.  And we could run completely  out of carp.

for some reason Bfers or carp haters think all euroanglers are against harvest of any kind, but most of the them have no issue with harvesting smaller carp as long as they get utilized for food...harvesting smaller fish yet releasing the bigger "specimen" fish so they can be caught again , much bigger,  even in lakes where extreme eradication efforts or heavy Bfing occur you get a population of dinks, it seems if a water has a caring capacity of 100# of common carp per acre, you can have that any ways you want twenty 5 pound carp or 5 twenties even two 50s, 

managing for trophy carp requires a healthy baby carp eater population and many of the known big fish waters are also know for huge trophy "game fish" as well...lake Fork in Texas is an example

[tjm]

Never heard of lakefork tx

It ain't a trophy til it's mounted.

Ain't just euroanglers I don't appreciate, it's any euro- nothing much good ever came to this continent from Germany. 

[MoCarp]

1 hour ago, tjm said:

Never heard of lakefork tx

http://articles.mcall.com/1994-09-11/sports/2987633_1_largemouth-ethel-bass-aquarium

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It ain't a trophy til it's mounted.

CPR baby! http://coasttocoastfishmounts.com

 

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Ain't just euroanglers I don't appreciate, it's any euro- nothing much good ever came to this continent from Germany. 

porsche? mercedes? wernher von braun? albert einstein? Bratwurst? Beer? gummy bears? blue jeans? X-Rays? printing press?