Dropper or not??

[tjm]

7 hours ago, ness said:

regular nymph rig

is that the one with three droppers or five? 

[ness]

4 hours ago, tjm said:

is that the one with three droppers or five? 

Oh, I think even you know the answer to that. 😄 

[Al Agnew]

I routinely cast a two nymph rig with an indicator 5-7 feet above the split shot out West.  I almost never go with more separation than that...I figure if the water is deeper than four or five feet, I probably won't catch the fish in it anyway.  You can cast such a rig the normal fly-cast way with backcast and all, though it isn't really all that much the fly line carrying the rig as the whole thing kinda going back and forth.  I use the water-load and flip thing a lot, but only if I'm fishing water that's no more than 15-20 feet from where I'm standing.  If I'm reaching out farther, I use an ordinary cast.  The indicator fishing really shines when you're on a big river and trying make a drift 40 feet away from you.  If I'm on a smaller stream where almost all my nymphing is done in close, I don't use the indicator.

 

[tjm]

Al, I don't get to fish big rivers like that and am curios, when you fish that indicator way out there, is the purpose to focus your eye on or to control  the fly depth? or to keep the rig moving down current?

[Flysmallie]

9 hours ago, tjm said:

is the purpose to focus your eye on or to control  the fly depth? or to keep the rig moving down current?

Yes.

I've used them for all those things. Meet me on the Niangua sometime in January and I'll show you. Maybe Wrench will come down and show us how to do it without the bobber. He's way better than me. 

[tjm]

I'd like that. I might like it better in warmer weather, like Oct. It's outside my 5-6 county area though.  I don't think of the Niangua as a big river, but I've only seen it near BSSP and that only a couple times and  long enough  ago that memories are vague. At least ten years since I got that far from Pineville, and I don't travel as well as I once did. A trip to wrench's waters would be a three day deal for me.

I have found/picked up about a dozen of those lost little bobbers around the RR and have messed with using them some over the last couple months, ineffectively I might add. Still seem like a hindrance to me, takes the feel away and drags the fly. Trout and sunfish both wanted to eat the bobber. Watched a gal last time at RR that had the bobber way up the leader, it didn't touch the water as she fished except as the cast landed, then she held it out of the water as her rig went by and swung. She handled the rod well enough that I don't think it was her first time, but the bobber looked even more useless hanging three feet from the rod and three feet from the water. Didn't watch long enough to see a fish caught, so don't know if that worked or not.

[Flysmallie]

27 minutes ago, tjm said:

I'd like that. I might like it better in warmer weather, like Oct. It's outside my 5-6 county area though.  I don't think of the Niangua as a big river, but I've only seen it near BSSP and that only a couple times and  long enough  ago that memories are vague. At least ten years since I got that far from Pineville, and I don't travel as well as I once did. A trip to wrench's waters would be a three day deal for me.

I have found/picked up about a dozen of those lost little bobbers around the RR and have messed with using them some over the last couple months, ineffectively I might add. Still seem like a hindrance to me, takes the feel away and drags the fly. Trout and sunfish both wanted to eat the bobber. Watched a gal last time at RR that had the bobber way up the leader, it didn't touch the water as she fished except as the cast landed, then she held it out of the water as her rig went by and swung. She handled the rod well enough that I don't think it was her first time, but the bobber looked even more useless hanging three feet from the rod and three feet from the water. Didn't watch long enough to see a fish caught, so don't know if that worked or not.

I usually don't trout fish anymore until it's too cold for smallmouth. 

A place like roaring river I rarely use an indicator. You ever fish outside of the park down there? 

[fishinwrench]

33 minutes ago, tjm said:

I'd like that. I might like it better in warmer weather, like Oct. It's outside my 5-6 county area though.  I don't think of the Niangua as a big river, but I've only seen it near BSSP and that only a couple times and  long enough  ago that memories are vague. At least ten years since I got that far from Pineville, and I don't travel as well as I once did. A trip to wrench's waters would be a three day deal for me.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one here that isn't contributing heavily to all the congestion on the highways, stop lights and intersections.

[tjm]

19 minutes ago, Flysmallie said:

You ever fish outside of the park down there? 

Not for several years. I used to wade it down to the county road five or six times each summer. Been maybe 7-8 years since I did that. I was asking about that the other day and the Parks cop told me they aren't stocking it much and that the private land owners are calling law if you get on them. I haven't looked at a map to see if the private land is a problem or if the guy was just being a cop and exaggerating it. I didn't talk to the MDC about the stocking either, so.. I fish the park because it's easier walking and closer to the car.

It gets too cold to fish small mouth?

Wrench, I'm going to Fayetteville this after noon and that will take care of my quota of traffic and stop lights for a few weeks. They need to build more rest areas along these highways. Hour at a time is all I can sit.

[Flysmallie]

1 hour ago, tjm said:

It gets too cold to fish small mouth?

 

No. But that’s my excuse to go trout fishing. Trout fishing, whether implanted or not, just seems right in the winter. 

There have been issues with landowners down there in the past. That’s why I asked. Don’t care to talk to any irrational land owners at this time.