MDC Rant

[Ketchup]

Just now, jdmidwest said:

Do the deer come from your property and stay on your property their entire lives?  Nope, they are the State's Deer just like the fish in streams are the State's Fish.  And they have to keep track of them.

I would agree with that statement, IF:

The state, in ANY way, has spent a single penny towards those deer that roam my property, and my neighbors properties. I have never understood the argument “these deer belong to the state” That is a crock of crap. They spend money on public areas, not my property. I don’t need, nor want their help with maintaining my property,, therefore I don’t want to be forced to be in a program that keeps track of “private” deer on my “private” property. 

[fishinwrench]

16 minutes ago, Ketchup said:

I would agree with that statement, IF:

The state, in ANY way, has spent a single penny towards those deer that roam my property, and my neighbors properties. I have never understood the argument “these deer belong to the state” That is a crock of crap. They spend money on public areas, not my property. I don’t need, nor want their help with maintaining my property,, therefore I don’t want to be forced to be in a program that keeps track of “private” deer on my “private” property. 

I gotta go along with that.

[Ketchup]

Tuesday, my neighbor, who between him and his sister, own the 850 acres that borders my 126, on 2 sides. We got to chatting about a neighbor kid he let’s hunt his property. He stated “I let him hunt on my farm tags, because I don’t hunt myself, and those deer eat out of my cattle feeders daily, so I’m feeding the deer on my property, and that grain cost me money that those deer are eating”. 

I have owned the appropriate sized land to get farm tags for at least 20 years, and think I have got those tags maybe 4 times. I buy tags because i hunt on friends land as much as my own. I have never blinked an eye about buying tags, because I hunt land other than mine. 

If I chose to hunt only my land, and not a single penny from any state agency goes towards the specific deer on my property, nor my property, then why do I need a tag from a state agency? 

Anyone know how I can get my share of MDC monies for the damage, feed, etc. that the “state” owned deer cause? Or the insurance rate hike from hitting a few with my vehicle while on state roadways? If they belong to the state, shouldn’t the state be required to pay for any and all damages they cause? 

[1farmer]

 

Are these farm tags for additional deer harvested after the yearly limit?

[Ketchup]

22 minutes ago, 1farmer said:

 

Are these farm tags for additional deer harvested after the yearly limit?

Farm tags are granted per size of property. More land, more tags. 

I have never filled them all, nor my purchased tags. I eat tags every year. 

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Ketchup said:

If they belong to the state, shouldn’t the state be required to pay for any and all damages they cause? 

Or at least be required to show up with a shovel and buckets to collect every single one that litters the roadway. 

Seriously, if they are gonna claim ownership of them and take authority over us on their behalf......then yeah, it's only right for them to get out here and clean their stinkin' carcasses up and take care of some of these insurance claims.  

[fishinwrench]

With as many that get hit on the roads around here it's pretty obvious that they aren't doing their "management" duties very well.

They caused my daughter to dump a cherry slush in the back floorboard a week ago, and took us 2 hours worth of scrubbing to get the stain out of the carpet.  It was either slam on the brakes, swerve into the ditch, or hit it and file a 3k insurance claim.

[Gavin]

SSN, etc for a licenscev is a Federal requirement under Jones Dingell Act. Dingell judt fied,

[tjm]

I think that if you ask a lawyer he can explain to you that the wildlife belongs to the people and is held trust by the state.  MDC just sets the management rules that maintain the trust.  You aren't killing enough of them if they are still getting hit by cars, part of the management plan depends on your doing the kills. You should get all 12-15 landowner tags that you are allowed, kill that many and then buy a tag to hunt on your buddy's land.

Since you said the neighbor is feeding those deer that you think are yours;   shouldn't you pay your half of the feed bill?

 

[fishinwrench]

3 minutes ago, tjm said:

I think that if you ask a lawyer he can explain to you that the wildlife belongs to the people and is held trust by the state.  MDC just sets the management rules that maintain the trust.  You aren't killing enough of them if they are still getting hit by cars, part of the management plan depends on your doing the kills. You should get all 12-15 landowner tags that you are allowed, kill that many and then buy a tag to hunt on your buddy's land.

Since you said the neighbor is feeding those deer that you think are yours;   shouldn't you pay your half of the feed bill?

 

This only holds water if after a certain number of tags are sold, no more are available to be bought.    At what point do you think MDC would say "Sorry, no tags left"?  😂