ExpiramentIng with knots

[MOPanfisher]

I have tied Nanofil directly to jigs while crappie fishing.  Used it that way for the first few years before going to a leader.  Nanofil chafes and abrades quickly against rocks and sticks or even on a fishes mouth.  I have when not taking a moment to re tie broken off on a hook set.  

[snagged in outlet 3]

19 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

Palomar is perfect for the way I fish nymphs.  For dry flies, improved clinch knot with only 2 or 3 twists.

 

Small Flies too?  

[fishinwrench]

I use a figure 8 knot on teeny tiny stuff, and a no-slip loop on everything else.  I've gotten to where I can do a loop knot on stuff down to 16's on the stream, and down to 18's-20's if I'm rigging at camp or while sitting on the tailgate.   

Flys on a loop knot are 100% the way to go, I always get more/better bites when using one. Ya gotta make that loop small though.  No bigger than 3x the size of the hook eye if you can pull it off.

[Mitch f]

In my humble opinion most people use too many turns on fluorocarbon...it’s not made for that

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, Mitch f said:

In my humble opinion most people use too many turns on fluorocarbon...it’s not made for that

Agree.  Just enough to keep it from slipping too soon.  No worries about it digging into itself, cuz it's hard as hell.

[netboy]

For my fly leaders I use a nail knot for the leader to fly line knot and then a small tippet ring for the leader to tippet connection with a simple clinch knot on each end.   

[Al Agnew]

21 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

Small Flies too?  

Yep.  No problem as long as your tippet is matched size-wise to your fly.  I might play around with tying a loop knot, though, after reading what Wrench said.

[snagged in outlet 3]

11 minutes ago, Al Agnew said:

Yep.  No problem as long as your tippet is matched size-wise to your fly.  I might play around with tying a loop knot, though, after reading what Wrench said.

No Davy knot or figure 8 knot?   

[Bushbeater]

Just finishing up a new rod for Crappie and maybe trout. Watching epoxy dry. Bought a Daiwa BG 1500 to use. The line I bought is Suffix Nanobraid 4#

https://www.rapala.com/sufix/braid/nanobraid/nanobraid/NanoBraid.html

and it's only .003" diameter. Should I use a leader for trout and how would you tie line that thin? Or should I just save that line and spool it with Maxima 4# Ultragreen?

[fishinwrench]

15 hours ago, Bushbeater said:

it's only .003" diameter. Should I use a leader for trout

Really?  That would be 8x 

You're not gonna find smaller mono/flouro than that.  And if you did it would be 1lb. test or less.  

Something that is 8x and 4# test, or 5x and 10#test would be great, I want some of that !   Wonder how the knot strength and abrasion resistance is?