Defunding our police..

[SpoonDog]

9 hours ago, Mitch f said:

Why would you even put that last question on your statement? You always finish your sermons with these condescending questions. Do you really think we’re all racists?

 

People have imperfect knowledge.  They ask questions to get answers.  They ask questions to get people to challenge their assumptions and views about the world.  They ask questions to get people to think.  I don't know why you're hostile to critical thinking, but it's been a cornerstone of western thought for 2500+ years.  Take as long as you need to catch up.

  In my experience, bandying the term racist about only serves to blow up conversation.  It's an easy, lazy, escape hatch for those who don't want to critically examine their own thoughts and values.  I do believe everyone has blind spots, and should know enough about themselves to know that.  I think people should be adult enough, honest enough, and objective enough, to realize when their perception of a situation is informed by their own bias. 

[Mitch f]

26 minutes ago, SpoonDog said:

 

People have imperfect knowledge.  They ask questions to get answers.  They ask questions to get people to challenge their assumptions and views about the world.  They ask questions to get people to think.  I don't know why you're hostile to critical thinking, but it's been a cornerstone of western thought for 2500+ years.  Take as long as you need to catch up.

  In my experience, bandying the term racist about only serves to blow up conversation.  It's an easy, lazy, escape hatch for those who don't want to critically examine their own thoughts and values.  I do believe everyone has blind spots, and should know enough about themselves to know that.  I think people should be adult enough, honest enough, and objective enough, to realize when their perception of a situation is informed by their own bias. 

The funny thing is they are pretty much third grade level questions. Yea, you’re such a deep thinker 🙄. You’re more like a guy who’s ideology doesn’t pass the test and refuses to believe that we don’t buy your turd polishing. Obviously we don’t support racist employers. 

[SpoonDog]

Obviously.  That's why you support affirmative action, because it protects black candidates from racist employers. 

[jdmidwest]

Looks like they are going to break up Minn police dept, voted 12-0 for it.  See how a city copes without law enforcement now.  I guess county sheriff will have to step up his game.

[Mitch f]

7 minutes ago, jdmidwest said:

Looks like they are going to break up Minn police dept, voted 12-0 for it.  See how a city copes without law enforcement now.  I guess county sheriff will have to step up his game.

The sad part for me is that my step daughter just got a scholarship to University of Minnesota Twin Cities. I’m running a little scared now.

[Dutch]

Maybe some of our local dealers and gang bangers will head up north.

[jdmidwest]

8 minutes ago, Mitch f said:

The sad part for me is that my step daughter just got a scholarship to University of Minnesota Twin Cities. I’m running a little scared now.

Universities tend to support that kind of thinking.  She may have to sit out a semester. Have to keep an eye on what unfolds there.

A city will not last long without law enforcement. County dept will not be able to fill in the gaps.  Fire and paramedic will falter without support also.

Some speculation I have seen think 2 amend will be supressed also leaving the law abiding defenseless.

We are running aground pretty fast

[tjm]

35 minutes ago, jdmidwest said:

Some speculation I have seen think 2 amend will be supressed also leaving the law abiding defenseless.

They have to have police to suppress the 2nd, make all the rules and laws you want with out the enforcers they mean nothing. 

  

59 minutes ago, jdmidwest said:

I guess county sheriff will have to step up his game.

I guess all states and counties are different, but when I lived in a big city the Sheriff had few deputies and really did nothing but serve warrants and man  the court rooms. If that county is similar the deputies wouldn't even begin to replace the police.

[tjm]

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[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, jdmidwest said:

Looks like they are going to break up Minn police dept, voted 12-0 for it.  See how a city copes without law enforcement now.  I guess county sheriff will have to step up his game.

What does "break up police dept" mean exactly?

There will never be a city without law enforcement, there's too much money in it for them to just stop enforcing laws.  They are just pouting because they don't feel as loved and respected as they think they should.....so they are threatening to "run away". 🙄 

Let them go and they'll be back before the stoplight turns red again.