Is this fly tying material or not?

[tjm]

That book is more about obsession than fly tying.

[Flyfisher for men]

47 minutes ago, tjm said:

 

Now I have read many times that "no game warden has ever checked my flies to see what feathers I used" and that is probably true, but I did hear of a guy arrested for having a wild bird feather in his hat band. I've never personally had anyone check my fly tying bin either, but I reckon there is always a first time, or could be.

Yeah, and game wardens have much broader search powers because the evidence they look for can be eaten, decompose, or even run away. If they see evidence of illegal game (and a feather might be enough), they can go into all kinds of places without the usual warrants.  It's why federal agents doing raids sometimes have a state game warden tagging along.  He sees that feather and he can suddenly be poking into all kinds of stuff as part of a suspected poaching investigation, and then it's "Boys, look what I found!"

For instance: 

https://www.uslawshield.com/game-wardens-texas-immense-police-power/

Quote

 

"If a Texas game warden reasonably believes that you or someone else is engaged in a regulated activity, they can inspect any device used to hunt or collect a wildlife resource. Also, they can search any container or receptacle that is capable of concealing a wildlife resource or those devices. This includes vehicles, boats, game bags, freezers, coolers, or even something as small as an Altoids box that could contain a lure.

Game Wardens’ Jurisdictions?

But what about a Texas game warden’s jurisdiction? Well, just as wildlife go between city and county lines, so does the jurisdiction of a Texas game warden. Texas game wardens’ jurisdiction is statewide.

Also, they can go on to not only public, but also private, property to enforce game and wildlife laws."

 

 

  

[tangledup]

Looks like the trash can provided by my local waste disposal service meets the criteria for proper disposal. I probably could have easily kept some feathers and no-one would have been the wiser, but I have yet to run afowl (get it?) of a conservation agent, so why start now?I have plenty of options for fly tying material. Lesson learned here: Think before you post. 

[fishinwrench]

We do these scavenger hunts with the kids when we are camping or on an outing and they start getting on our nerves. 

A heart shaped rock is worth .50

An arrowhead is worth 5.00

A stick that resembles a letter is worth a dime.  (I loose 20.00 everytime on Y's....but they make good kindling so it's ok).

A turtle shell is worth 2.00

A feather is worth 1.00

.....and so on.

 

 

It's somewhat comforting to know that if they come back with a raptor feather that I can have them thrown in prison and get out of paying them off.  🤟😊👍

[tjm]

song birds are just as protected as raptors, you might need pictures though of them in possession and you could risk them turning state's evidence and fingering you as the receiver

[fishinwrench]

Pics aren't going to cut it.  Haven't you heard?  Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton have seen to it that pictures and video footage can possibly be edited craftfully enough that detection isn't 100%, and therefore cannot be used for evidence anymore.    

The days of being convicted, via photo/video surveillance evidence, are long gone.   A plethora of retrials are forthcoming that should clog up the courts for decades.

[BilletHead]

              Waterfowl feathers is a funny deal too. You are able to sell legally taken waterfowl feathers only for fly tying only. 

[fishinwrench]

31 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

              Waterfowl feathers is a funny deal too. You are able to sell legally taken waterfowl feathers only for fly tying only. 

That's most rediculous thing I've ever heard.  You can only SELL them for fly tying.....but you can BUY them for any possible use you can think of ?   

[tangledup]

1 hour ago, BilletHead said:

              Waterfowl feathers is a funny deal too. You are able to sell legally taken waterfowl feathers only for fly tying only. 

Is that a state law?

[BilletHead]

3 minutes ago, tangledup said:

Is that a state law?

                 Federal law,

    Some states have other laws over waterfowl feathers I have heard. You cannot just use them for anything but what is stated here,

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2001-title50-vol1/pdf/CFR-2001-title50-vol1-sec20-91.pdf

          There was a place I bookmarked on my computer but cannot seem to find it. They would buy legally harvested waterfowl feathers from hunters. I thought about collecting and selling some but instead I give them to a forum member on here.