Time for a Clouser binge

[Ryan Miloshewski]

1 hour ago, tjm said:

How deep are you going with these?

Deep in the bowels of Hell, knowing FW

[Ryan Miloshewski]

1 minute ago, nomolites said:

Their Pred hooks are pretty much interchangeable with B10s and work great, I’ve tied a bunch with them and like them a lot.

Mike

Good to know! Just bought my first pack yesterday.

[tjm]

43 minutes ago, Ryan Miloshewski said:

Deep in the bowels of Hell, knowing FW

I know he uses LOZ, I had not heard that was Hell.

But, it's a pattern that I don't use much and the different weights for different hooks also triggers my curiosity. The bigger hooks should sink faster with the same weight just because the bigger hook weighs more. and for the few times I use the pattern bead chain worked better for me than even the lightest lead bar bells. So, just guessing it could be a size thing for looks, but then brass would work, so .... I like to learn, even if I may never use the knowledge.

[BilletHead]

1 hour ago, tjm said:

I know he uses LOZ, I had not heard that was Hell.

But, it's a pattern that I don't use much and the different weights for different hooks also triggers my curiosity. The bigger hooks should sink faster with the same weight just because the bigger hook weighs more. and for the few times I use the pattern bead chain worked better for me than even the lightest lead bar bells. So, just guessing it could be a size thing for looks, but then brass would work, so .... I like to learn, even if I may never use the knowledge.

             TJM,

   Yes getting them deep in lakes is needed but in most of my fishing and might be speaking of Ryan too fishing heavy flows or fast current we need the streamer of any kind to get down as quickly as we can before we loose contact with the strike zone. Using a heaver fly or sink tip line does it for us.  When I say deep it really isn't that much like in five to eight foot or more in most places I fish. Even some places it may just be two foot but we have to account for current flow.

[Flysmallie]

11 hours ago, Ryan Miloshewski said:

Just got some of the new Ahrex hooks for clousers and streamers. Size 2. We'll see how they perform. They are sturdier than a B10S as far as I can tell. Almost saltwater sturdy. 

I’ve been using them too. No issues. 

[tjm]

Is the bigger fly that much harder to sink? the material buoyancy overcomes the added  hook weight?

 

49 minutes ago, BilletHead said:

in most of my fishing and might be speaking of Ryan too fishing heavy flows or fast current we need the streamer of any kind to get down as quickly as we can before we loose contact with the strike zone.

is that because the boat is moving?

 

[BilletHead]

2 minutes ago, tjm said:

Is the bigger fly that much harder to sink? the material buoyancy overcomes the added  hook weight?

 

is that because the boat is moving?

 

            Depending on how you are fishing. Drifting with the current at same speed your fly will sink quicker. When I fish for whites and especially hybrids at pinch points I will be stationary on bank or anchored in a boat. The water is smoking through fast as they ambush shad or other baitfish. When your fly and fly line hit the water its going to swing and go the speed of the current. There is no mending  to keep it into the zone.  Some places you only have seconds in the spot before the fly is out. Strip it back in and start over.  

[fishinwrench]

6 hours ago, tjm said:

How deep are you going with these?

Depends.   

In the spring, 2-4'

In Summer and fall, 4-8' and sometimes...but not often... 10-12'.

 

I've always got 3 rods rigged with the lines here...

[tjm]

I don't think I've ever seen a white bass alive, my son in law used to chase them on Beaver and I've eaten some. I don't think I realized how hard you guys work to catch them.

[Ryan Miloshewski]

13 minutes ago, tjm said:

I don't think I've ever seen a white bass alive, my son in law used to chase them on Beaver and I've eaten some. I don't think I realized how hard you guys work to catch them.

Honestly I think they taste better than crappie. And they're a blast to catch, especially on a fly rod. It's a SWMO tradition to target the white bass run.