dpitt Posted April 6, 2022 Author Posted April 6, 2022 2 hours ago, tjm said: Aren't we limited to three hooks? Long time ago back east I messed around with a lot of three fly and five fly teams of wets and although I caught fish with them, it was like wrench said I would have likely caught the same fish with a single fly. Sometimes they eat and some times they don't. There's only one hook, I agree when they are on, they are on, but possibly this could get their attention at least more so than a single fly when visibility is limited, it might attract them from farther away, who knows what fish think. I'm going to do some experimenting comparing throwing a single clouser against this rig to see if it's worth the effort. will report. Flysmallie, kjackson and BilletHead 3
tjm Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 I didn't understand that all the other hooks were clipped, might consider shanks for those. Might also consider tying one of the Clousers as an unweighted bucktail depending on how it casts and swims. Interesting experiment. dpitt 1
dpitt Posted April 7, 2022 Author Posted April 7, 2022 @tjmGood idea using shanks, I'll try tying the trailing clouser weightless and see how is swims, it might make it swim more. The front dumbell eyes provides a bulkhead where I can anchor and flare the wires or beadalone. You can "send it" casting a 7 or 8 weight with sink tip line. Thanks for the input BilletHead and tjm 2
BilletHead Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, dpitt said: @tjmGood idea using shanks, I'll try tying the trailing clouser weightless and see how is swims, it might make it swim more. The front dumbell eyes provides a bulkhead where I can anchor and flare the wires or beadalone. You can "send it" casting a 7 or 8 weight with sink tip line. Thanks for the input You really have my creative juices flowing. what size of beadalon wire are you using and how does it collapse on the strip? "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
dpitt Posted April 7, 2022 Author Posted April 7, 2022 @BilletHead Interesting you ask, I was worried about that, but when stripped they collapse very little it looks good while swimming. Beadalon pic is shown below. Also, I have two models, one with Beadalon, the other completely rigid using bead wire, pic also below. It's heavier, but will not foul up. The beadalon did not foul much if i casted with sinking line, and applied good casting form. i.e. wait for back cast to straighten. Need to test it's durability, I'm woried about kinking. Here as some more detailed pics for the beadalon version first, following that I'll have pics for the rigid wire version. Would love to hear about enhancement modifications. Here's the Beadalone, Beadlone spool I used size 12 down eye streamer hooks and clipped them. Tied in with the down eye out and wrapped and glued the beadalone. I think this down eye approach helps to keep it flared out when swimming. Also, ty in at the front clouser so that the dumbell eyes fulcrum out the bead alone, again helps keep it flared out. The trailer is tied in like an articulated streamer with a long beadalon strand, It's kind of thick, i used some wraps and Glue to keep it together, defiantly can be improved. Now for the rigid version... Here's the bead wire version, bought at Michael's same section as beadalon. one side has a nail head, with allows it to be tyed in nicely at the dumbell eyes. the trick is to wrap and glue one top, one bottom, each side. Layering the thread wraps and glue makes it sturdy. the trailer is glued and wrapped and glued onto the dead wire. I have a version the uses beadalone for the trailer, but it kept wrapping around the wire satellite bucktail when casting. It caught fish, but had to keep unfouling. so I changed to rigid wire. DISCLAIMER: don't have a lot of sea time with these, hit a couple ponds to see them swim, cast, caught fish, but still need to test more, which I plan on doing, Hoping others can help adapt and test. Need to get some big fish hooked up. You can also put nice bends in it to shape as desired. Also, it kind of gives makes it a little snag free, I casted it an under water brush pile and could feel it bounce off marcusearlt 1
fishinwrench Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 A tiny snap that would allow you to change your trailing fly might be an improvement. BilletHead and dpitt 2
dpitt Posted April 7, 2022 Author Posted April 7, 2022 Yes, good idea thanks would allow to play around with different trailers, thanks!
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