Members T.J. Clarke Posted January 11, 2023 Members Posted January 11, 2023 1/23/2023 | BENNETT SPRING STATE PARK | LEBANON, MO Representatives from Missouri State Parks invite the public to provide input on the future of Bennett Spring State Park’s wooden Bramwell Bridge. A public meeting will be held at 6 p.m., Monday, Jan. 23, at the Bennett Spring nature center. A 30-day comment period will begin on Jan. 23, with a survey available online on the park's homepage. For more information about this event and the online survey, call the park at 417-532-4338. Click here to read the news release. MEETING TIME: 6 P.M. 26250 Highway 64A, Lebanon, MO | 417-532-4338 NOTE-----The online survey does not begin till JAN 23rd
fishinwrench Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 There's really nothing to discuss. The bridge has to be fixed/replaced AGAIN/or whatever. The only thing left to do is to GET BUSY ON IT and to quit kicking the can down the road. They made a bad call and didn't take the advice of the contractor they hired to replace it the LAST TIME. He wanted to relocate it for a reason, but they chose to ignore his intelligence, and now HOPEFULLY they've learned a lesson. Suck it up, admit that you made an error of judgement, and get up off that MFing money ! Freakin' Dingleberry's! 🙄 fshndoug 1
oneshot 1 Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Was just by it today. Wondering why they can't just make it like the Whistle Bridge. oneshot
fishinwrench Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 It needs to be relocated upstream about 60 yards, where the channel bank is higher and the stream is a bit wider (red). Then a short piece of road cleared to connect (yellow) with some rip-rap on the stream side of the new connecting road. The low necked down area where it has always been......is just asking for it everytime the water gets high.
Gavin Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 MDC & DNR supervisors are pretty dumb in terms of planning and maintenance . Regular maintenance is cheaper than parts and down time, but they don’t seem to know that.
tjm Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 I'm guessing that tear down and removal are cheaper than maintenance. I've not been paying attention to that Park, but it seems like the bridge has been unusable for four or five years and the Park stays open? If I was running that comments meeting I'd be asking "Why do we need this?" not "What color do you think the new bridge should be?" I'm not sure that MDC even has people trained to maintain anything? When some of the accesses had pit toilets, they weren't maintained until someone complained and they took the toilets out, when they built all those boot washers to prevent the spread didymo they were never maintained. Roads in the conservation ares are never maintained.
oneshot 1 Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Few years ago they was wanting to do away with the bridge we told them it was needed. So they said they would build a better one. Then I go down see the same bridge. Yes I was upset. oneshot
Gavin Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 MDC has nothing to do with this. State Parks are MO DNR land. The worst bridge in that area is the 64 bridge over the Niangua. I'm surprised that has not fallen down yet, but that is on MO DOT. Terrierman 1
mic Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 As someone who worked in government, I'm going to take the high road here and devil's advocate here: fishinwrench - my best guess is the meeting is legally required and must be held if it is or not. Much like voting, no future complaining if you don't go to the meeting. Gavin - Who knows, but I bet they do no maintenance is cheaper. However, maintenance cost money and money is controlled by the your government representatives. I bet they know, but just don't care. Also... sometime old infrastructure replacement is cheaper if the old infrastructure doesn't meet current engineering or safety standards. Plus... didn't this get damaged by a flood (100% could be wrong here)?
oneshot 1 Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Gavin said: MDC has nothing to do with this. State Parks are MO DNR land. The worst bridge in that area is the 64 bridge over the Niangua. I'm surprised that has not fallen down yet, but that is on MO DOT. My understanding is they are going to replace it. They didn't know how to deal with the traffic is the reason it hasn't been replaced. oneshot
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