Knots, Line, and so on

[fishinwrench]

48 minutes ago, tjm said:

Isn't leader twist most often a leader problem?

Not when you have a piece of foam shooting off forward at 45° to your hook eye.......I mean Jesus Christ, it doesn't take an aerodynamic engineer to see what's making it spin !!!!!   

[Al Agnew]

22 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

This is merely something you've read in magazines, and thus are reacting to.  

#1.  While it is true that fluorocarbon (once broken through the surface tension of water) does indeed sloooowly siiiiink.   It doesn't sink hard enough to drown a dry fly. Not even a compara-dun style fly.

#2. The tippet being UNDER the surface is far less visible than a tippet floating in the surface film.    This is proven.   So whatever you do DON'T apply floatant to your tippet EVER.  You want it to sink 👍

 

I fish fluorocarbon tippet on dry flys, and I have experimented with it in the sink....and in the swimming pool.    The belief that flouro seriously (and detrimentally) effects the floatability of dry flys is a huge myth.   Just so ya know 👌

Well...I fished fluoro tippet for everything for several years, but I went back to mono for dry flies as an experiment, and found that with mono I did not need to apply floatant to the fly nearly as often.  I did not THINK that fluoro made much if any difference while I was fishing it, but now I'm back to fishing mono.  So while I do think you're right, I'm just relating why I switched back to mono.

[fishinwrench]

The REAL reason I like flouro on everything (drys as well) is because my No-Slip Loop knots are a full pound stronger with fluorocarbon. 

And using the loop knot doesn't allow the tippet to boss the fly around 😉 It can give you up to 60 extra inches of drag-free drift.   

[tjm]

45°?  well I've been doing them all wrong then.

[fishinwrench]

51 minutes ago, tjm said:

45°?  well I've been doing them all wrong then.

It ain't wrong if it's working for you.   🤷‍♂️

Either way you've got a flap of foam sticking out in front of your hook eye, that doesn't exactly wanna fly without spinning.    That's the point I'm getting at.

[tjm]

I know that's what you said but I've never gotten a twisted leader when fishing one. As far as I can remember the only twisted  leaders I've had came using too small of a tippet for the fly, but even using as light as 8# on #2 gurglers I don't  recall any leader  problems. The quill winged dries were always twisters for me on any light tippet, until I stopped putting wings on mine. 

You could try rounding  the corners on the lip. Gartside's suggestion.

[snagged in outlet 3]

9 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

The REAL reason I like flouro on everything (drys as well) is because my No-Slip Loop knots are a full pound stronger with fluorocarbon. 

And using the loop knot doesn't allow the tippet to boss the fly around 😉 It can give you up to 60 extra inches of drag-free drift.   

That looks like a Griffiths gnat that I put the tip of the grizzly hackle on for a tail.  Deadly when stripped under in the winter.  

[tjm]

3 hours ago, snagged in outlet 3 said:

That looks like a Griffiths gnat that I put the tip of the grizzly hackle on for a tail.  Deadly when stripped under in the winter.  

how it's tied- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAjCzAZyEAE

[Seth]

On 1/11/2024 at 11:08 AM, Mitch f said:

Ok you win 😂

Just offering some advice to try and help guys like you not lose all those fish from break offs. It doesn't matter to me if you listen or not. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, or something like that. 🙂

[Mitch f]

4 minutes ago, Seth said:

Just offering some advice to try and help guys like you not lose all those fish from break offs. It doesn't matter to me if you listen or not. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, or something like that. 🙂

Coming from the pink worm dude.