ollie Posted April 30 Posted April 30 Don't think anyone soon will be launching at Twin and going upstream on the Neosho side! Insane amount of debris clogging up the river right there. Massive logjam on Neosho River at Twin Bridges State Park is a growing problem | Joplin News First | koamnewsnow.com snagged in outlet 3, Terrierman, FishnDave and 1 other 3 1 "you can always beat the keeper, but you can never beat the post" There are only three things in life that are certain : death, taxes, and the wind blowing at Capps Creek!
BilletHead Posted April 30 Posted April 30 49 minutes ago, ollie said: Don't think anyone soon will be launching at Twin and going upstream on the Neosho side! Insane amount of debris clogging up the river right there. Massive logjam on Neosho River at Twin Bridges State Park is a growing problem | Joplin News First | koamnewsnow.com Seen pictures of that on the news last night Ollie. Massive is the word! "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
tjm Posted April 30 Posted April 30 Wonder what the twisted under currents caused by that are doing to the bridge foundations? No surprise that none of the agencies want to be first to say "we'll fix it". The key log that caught all that must be under enormous pressure and must be exerting pressure on the bridge structure as well. Large removal job and the cost won't be small, does Kansas pay? it's their debris and their rainwater. I'm guessing that the Feds get involved in the funding as a disaster?
bfishn Posted April 30 Posted April 30 I saw that Sunday when I crossed the bridge. Biggest one I've ever seen. Terrierman and ollie 2 I can't dance like I used to.
ollie Posted April 30 Author Posted April 30 41 minutes ago, tjm said: Large removal job and the cost won't be small, does Kansas pay? it's their debris and their rainwater. I'm guessing that the Feds get involved in the funding as a disaster? I'm pretty sure that will all be up to GRDA since they own everything down there and are in charge basically. I heard that the bridge is structurally sound according to ODOT. As of right now they don't have a plan to clean it up or if they do they aren't sharing it. Estimated to be over 2 football fields in length and growing somewhat from what I heard and read. "you can always beat the keeper, but you can never beat the post" There are only three things in life that are certain : death, taxes, and the wind blowing at Capps Creek!
FishnDave Posted April 30 Posted April 30 Looks to me like a great opportunity for free (or paid to remove) woodchips for landscaping! Remove, chip it, bag it up and sell it! If you take me up on the idea, all I ask is for 5% royalty. Cheap! You're welcome!
BilletHead Posted April 30 Posted April 30 There was a massive one above schell City years ago. Was not on a bridge but out in the middle of nowhere. Corps of engineers came in a blew it up. bfishn and Quillback 2 "We have met the enemy and it is us", Pogo If you compete with your fellow anglers, you become their competitor, If you help them you become their friend" Lefty Kreh " Never display your knowledge, you only share it" Lefty Kreh "Eat more bass and there will be more room for walleye to grow!" BilletHead " One thing in life is for sure. If you are careful you can straddle the barbed wire fence but make one mistake and you will be hurting" BilletHead P.S. "May your fences be short or hope you have long legs" BilletHead
tjm Posted April 30 Posted April 30 I said I thought Feds would get involved because to me it looks like a hazard to transportation, it's pushing on that US Highway bridge in a direction that it's not designed for just like the container ship that took out that other bridge. I have no idea how much force is involved but it would be something like the speed of the current times the weight of the log jam. And it has the potential to move itself on down to the railroad bridge. GRDA doesn't own the bridges and from their viewpoint the log raft is posing no problem. Not a problem for me either, but it is interesting. 1 hour ago, BilletHead said: There was a massive one above schell City years ago. Was not on a bridge but out in the middle of nowhere. Corps of engineers came in a blew it up. Think that would be safe to do in the 10-50(?) mph current? The lower end is holding all of that, so would be like taking out a key that turns the rest loose to run down stream after the engineers? Toward the trestle.
Flysmallie Posted April 30 Posted April 30 So if you can't push it on downstream then how do you get rid of it? Seems real easy to just say pull it out. But the difficulty has increased if you don't want it dislodging and heading towards the tracks. What a mess. Glad I'm not in charge of that one. tjm 1
tjm Posted April 30 Posted April 30 The easy way might be to drop the lake level to the point that trucks and heavy equipment could work on it. Think what another 6" rain in Ks. would do with it ... And in comparison to the bridge span that looks longer than a mere 600' to me
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