Bill, I think most of us on this forum know the challenges of fishing, especially during the summer months. Our expectations are much lower than they are in Spring. I personally don't use live bait and have always said that live bait is for women, children, handicaps, and OLD people. Right now I qualify for two of these categories. I will let ANYONE who want to use live bait to fish them in my boat. I even encourage it in the Summer months, especially for the inexperienced fisherman. I wash the crawlers and put them in wet newspaper and keep them cool. This also cuts down on the mess for the people, as well as the boat. I think most people are just happy to learn a few things and catching fish is really a bonus. I think both you and Beck have proven that over your careers. A guides personality and patience is what separates the successful guides from the rest!