Devan S.

I didn't participate however......I think if I were to have participate....I wouldn't have submitted a picture unless I knew it was beating the leader(obviously no point right).....I think a way to delay the pictures until the end or near it might at least garner more pictures. Obviously there is technicalities with doing that but I could have seen a situation where nobody catches a bigger than 17 inch fish and no pictures get posted after FW posted the first night. Not that its a bad thing(he obviously felt some pressure) but I myself wondered if only 2 people fished or if only 2 people caught fish.

I liked the idea just not a big fan of bass fishing. I think it would be cool to do multi-species.

BBT could be quite the show with limited access......of course not everyone is going to be at the same ramp but it could be interesting. I think the north side of the Hwy 13 bridge stays out of the water and I would think the east side of Hwy 86 will stay out.

Up the white: Eagle Rock had lots of boats launched on the big parking lot. I would think holiday island would be okay too @rps would know for sure. Houseman Access I would think is usable. Viney upper ramp I thought was usable at high levels....however MO-state parks was leasing and had closed the front ramp. Not sure if anyone is leasing or if its open this year. I think one can launch at a couple of the Emerald beach ramps but the road to get back there is flooded however there is a dirt road detour(one or 2 smaller boats could launch there). Up Kings: Sweetwater might be able to launch off the circle but there will be parking issues and you'll have to back way down blindly. Honestly launching the boat on the road here might be an improvement over the ramp itself. Hickory Hollow is probably usable. Would definitely call ahead backing will be interesting and tight. Heck at this level Romp Hole way up the kings will be usable I would think if you want to go that far. Parking is likely the limiting factor in a lot of spots....in spots like sweetwater collects lots of logs and trash that doesn't get cleaned up so you may have to clear a path through sticks and logs.

I figured you would know. I know there is a pretty good shoal there right at spider creek. I figured I could put in at houseman assuming they weren't running a load of water to avoid the bridge issues. We checked out right below the dam and parker bottoms and both areas looked deep enough and wide enough for a bass boat(one generator last night and the water was well up into the trees) but I know there were a handful of shoals between so thought it best to ask. There was a tracker taking out at the ramp right below the dam so I thought I would check and see.

Wife and I took a drive today scoping out the beaver tail waters. Water looks high but only generation at Beaver Dam. Realizing Table rock is high...what level for Table Rock effectively backs up beyond 62 bridge and allows for a bass boat to run up father towards Beaver dam? Any insight?

The dam itself WITHOUT the aux spillway is rated for 500,000 cfs....which is 2X greater than the historical MAX inflow Table Rock has ever seen based on the presentation the corps shared. So my question is why would you even add the aux spillway? The James, Kings, Beaver and would each have to be well over 100,000 cfs sustained(think about the magnitude of that number for a second) Not counting all the smaller feeders. Not to mention you would have to drastically mis-match outflows to inflows to not be able to catch up. Is the Aux spillway at a higher level and maybe used in the event TRL got to high and damaged the control of the gates? Like a safety backup? I just can't see a reasonable need for 500,000+ CFS without Beaver failing which I don't see anyway TRL holds it back well enough to prevent failures throughout the system. Still the top of flood pools are 1130, 931, and 695 respectively but we clearly know we can get levels higher than that based on history so what is the actual critical level? It seems the water control plan which is very clear suddenly becomes murky at best once we pass the top of the flood pools. I realize I keep repeating myself but this stuff interest me....guess I should have gone down the hydrologist engineering path instead.....I just don't see the need or the fear of the aux spillway.....but you can bet were about to see some big releases across the board soon.

That's what has me confused on why it was added. 500,000 represents double the max inflow that has been recorded in the history of Table Rock Lake. Were talking about flood water down the james/kings orders of magnitude larger than they ever have ran. Which begs the question.....If Table Rock is the last dam to fill based on the current water control plan(which it is) the only conceivable use of the auxiliary spillway would be in situations when Bull Shoals was already nearly at the top of its spillway. Conceivably the auxiliary spillway would only be used if the the capacity of the first was not enough right? So wouldn't that in theory threaten a Bull Shoals too?

Mojo....quick question since I think you understand this.....in the control plan for Beaver: Above or predicted to exceed 1130, the Criteria is to pass through inflows(although it says subject to use of surcharge storage to reduce peak discharges and delay inflow to table rock). My understanding of this is that A. as the gates are raised the natural water level can rise and therefore we see levels that are essentially higher than what we think is the limit(we actually saw this with Table Rock when it hit 936' years back). Is there a published number for each dam that is actually "peak level" for surcharge storage? As I recall at some level the water gets extremely close to the electric motors used to raise and lower gates and therefore keeping them dry would maybe define that critical level. It appears the level for Table Rock may be in that 936' or 938' range but curious as to the actual number of critically for all 3 dams. Obviously adding 5-6' adds additional enormous volumes of water and allows the spread of the peak inflows out to avoid massive releases in the case of trying to match outflow to inflow. It effectively gives the ability to gives even more buffer than the publish top of flood pool. In addition both TRL and BS both list the top of flood pool criteria as: Regulate to obtain the most effective flood modification with the designated surcharge storage space. This seems slightly arbitrary to me. The water control plan is very defined and run to a pretty strict level but then in the case of surcharge flood pool we lose the definitions. Is/Are those guidelines available somewhere? I would assume its not a feel thing but there has to be some guidelines. I would also assume rules like not making releases due to forecast go out the window.

Exactly per the water control plan so I would say that's exactly what they will do. Only complaint is his hold at 925 is nothing more than a guess based on the Newport gauge on the white river. More rain and the gauge doesn't go down and it'll be more than a month. Likewise once all the lakes hit maximum flood pool they wont suddenly start drawing them down, they will do nothing but pass inflow until the gauge at Newport falls into the zone that allows them to release.

If you can find them....Browning Airstream.....Guys on here highly recommended them. I bought 1 for crappie fishing and then couldn't find them when I wanted another. Finally they showed back up and I now have 5 of them. Use them for crappie, trout, and gills.

Nice you are seeing exactly what I was seeing. We were looking for deep water near the bank and had some blow ups on a bluff end last weekend. Again not numbers but one here and one there. We did see one guide boat and he spent almost all his time running point to point never spent much time in any one location mid-morning we saw him around the island. We really had a lot of trouble getting them to do more than blow up. Seems our hookup percentage was low and once they were on they often would come off. Even tried fishing a Keitech in the same areas thinking they may be more apt to get it in their mouth but nada.

Exactly my point.....I would bet there is huge discrepancy in the USA numbers if we really got to looking at it. Heck we know for sure not everyone is being testing so we know the numbers cant be remotely true as far as infection rate and death rate. We know were missing data. The comical thing to me is this: Why did anyone expect our federal government to get this right? We can go down the list of things our federal government does or has done and its one check after against them......regardless of party in power. VA hospitals.....postal system.......Obamacare rollout......war in Iraq......war on drugs...... We largely stumble, trip, and fall over just about every major thing we do.....why would this be any different? There's to many people involved pulling too many different ways for anything to be successful. My employer has cut hourly employees from 40+ to capped at 32 hrs. Those people are filing work share for their last 8hrs and getting the $600 bonus bump......something wrong with that. Fail for the government.

The best argument that can be made in favor of Trump as it relates to this pandemic is that we have yet to have but maybe one or 2 countries in a worldwide pandemic that have done "well" with the response. Globally nobody has solved this thing and frankly those that have done "well" to date shouldn't wipe their brow too soon. This thing ain't over until the fat lady sings. At the end of the day pandemic are judge by two things, infections and deaths. On that level the only country that has been successful is North Korea. Plan or no plan across the globe......millions are being infected, thousands are dying. Doesn't matter who the leader is, doesn't matter what their plan is, or what their party is. By all accounts if you listen to the experts and science they are basically saying.....we don't know when we will have a vaccine or solution(historical data supports its gonna be awhile), we don't know how many people are really getting this(due to testing issues and asymptotic cases), we don't even fully understand the virus effects on human bodies(we learn more everyday). There isn't a SINGLE country that has been able to successfully answer any of those 3 questions. We have more unknowns than we can solve in this equation and no single country has been able to put together enough knows to solve this thing.

This is true for almost every President. As far as Presidents go, this one plays a lot of golf, the last one played basketball, the one before played war. Generally speaking that has little bearing on peoples day to day lives.

I'm fairly certain in Mo I've done the white bass, paddlefish, white crappie, goggle-eye, probably have a bluegill(never checked but have caught some toads), darn close to blue cat and channel cat, never caught a good flathead on rod and reel but certainly have it trot-lining. None have ever been submitted as its just a piece of paper. Arkansas seems to bit a tad bit tougher but their in groups and they send out pins for them so a little added bonus. They also remove the length and only go by weight which sometimes helps and sometimes hurts. I think in Arkansas I can find spots to get the Walleye and Smallmouth with enough time, effort, and luck. Catfish obviously anytime you have the Mississippi river you have lots of options. Trout is clearly a tailwater deal(pick your location). Striper could be BS or Beaver. Crappie may be tough at 2.5 lbs. Gar or paddlefish should be a reasonable find.

I have been looking at the Missouri and Arkansas Master Angler Awards. Got caught up specifically by the news of the Arkansas angler that now has them in all 8 categories which is pretty cool. Obviously you got to have some luck and lots of time invested but looking through the list which ones seem to be the easiest and where would specifically start if you were wanting to catch one? Looking through the MO list I have caught a couple that were darn close but never checked them 100% or submitted them.

We don't need dry. We need normal. According to the national weather service: Springfield is 10"+ ahead of normal. Joplin is 9" ahead of normal. Harrison is 8"+ ahead of normal. Fayetteville is 7.5"+ ahead of normal. We're not 50% through the year and in most cases we are 25-40% ahead of normal on precipitation. What we really need is a dry week with normal to above normal temperatures and some wind. Followed by a few light 1/2" rains throughout the week. This is go time for most of agriculture.

The last 2 days I have been just running points basically launching at Indian Creek and running to roughly the island off of Starkey. I have had several fish hooked and come off and landed 3 fish in the 5-6lb range all throwing a spook looking for deep to shallow transitions and top water activity. I have not hooked up with anything huge but I have been putting some fish in the boat and fishing in a way I enjoy.

Surely you are not implying no government meddling as it pertains to alcohol right?

I did the MR340 in a 17ft. aluminum canoe along the Mo. outside of a handful of spots I never felt overly concerned. Crossing the current seam from the Kaw river to the Mo with hundreds of other boats, a handful of barges, lisbon bottoms, and a lightning strike around Chamois that was too close for comfort all had me alert but I never felt in danger. Granted the river was cooking along and if I would have dumped it would have been a nightmare to get back in and going but I never really felt close to tipping. The most nerve racking thing by far was paddling at night and the boils but I don't think there was any inherent danger in them. Its kind of got me wanting to run back up and catfish thinking about it now. Like all water it can be dangerous but I've felt much more in danger paddling in class 3 whitewater.

Time shall tell but I know personally I am hanging onto about 18 calves I should have sold in the last 2 months. Market is down and so I'm hoping with the grass growing something breaks loose soon so I don't end up taking a bigger hit burning through pasture for calves that will likely sell poorly anyways. I'm certain I'm not the only person doing that either. Today its the processing/packers...tomorrow its the feedlots.....next week its the producers.

Concerning but it says they started noting the change in mid-March and its run from Europe to USA......Here it is early May so we can assume at least to some degree that most of the US is seeing this strain and not China's version? Does the infection rate line up between the sample sets? 6,000+ data points analyzed but yet 3.5+ Million reported cases? This is all claimed to be new and only "discovered" since January time frame. I wouldn't place much stock in "new" or any worse when they have only analyzed less than 2 tenths of a percent of the MEASURED infection rate. At this point, something like this only confirms we don't know jack squat about this....really.

Not really. I think that's the last thing we really want happening. Imagine the debacle that would be forced resignations by the executive branch. Would be like court appointees x10. It sounds great until it directly works against you when the pendulum swings the other way. Perfect example is the Republicans going nuclear on the SCOTUS appointees after the Democrats did it 4 years earlier. The real shame is that the American people get fixated on a figurehead (most often the President, Speaker, ect) and all but ignore voting for the masses of congress/senate as evidenced by the drop off in voter turnout on any election outside POTUS. I don't believe the President is the greatest character and personally and morally I have some strong agreements and disagreements with how he handles himself and the office of POTUS. However, I am certain there is Republican and Democrats in both the Senate and Congress that have done and will do things that both myself and the masses believe are objectively wrong. Unless they have some high ranking title and/or they commit something overly heinous, they have to endure 1-2 weeks of media backlash (if that) then all is forgotten. You all want to blame someone for American politics and there is really only one person to blame...the American people. When 40-50% don't vote for President, another 10-20% wont vote at midterms who else can you blame. You cant logically blame the people elected for abusing their powers when Americans(their boss) have a opportunity to solve the issues every couple of years with their votes. Think about your place of employment and if any shady, backroom, sweetheart deals go on or cover-ups that happen. If this kind of stuff goes on at work, do you think highly of your management? Probably not(unless your the manager). The political place of employment is no different.....we just have really crappy managers that refuse to FIRE bad employees. Term limits, political parties, lobbying, drain the swamp.....none of that matters if elected officials were held responsible by their constituents.

Agree both Big M and Eagle Rock are going to mean pretty good paddles to coves and likely crossing the lake. You could put in 86 bridge in Eagle rock over roaring river arm(not the big bridge over the lake). Lots of accessible water in that area. Viney is a good spot and will not have to cross the lake. I think there is a small boat ramp in rock creek on the Big M side but I'm not sure how to get there. Owl Creek has a boat ramp and would be protected. Another option would be the old sweetwater ramp on the kings side. Pretty good cove there and easy paddle to the next cove over.