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Thanks, I find all of this very interesting. I'll check it out the next time I'm there.

I think its misinformation. It would have to be totally new for this season. I haven't heard anything about it.

I'm hearing this about the Cabelas fly shop, although I haven't seen it with my own eyes as yet.

For anyone who might be interested, here is the official report of the Battle of Inman Hollow, July 7 1862. Since I understand Stevenson's Mill was in the present park boundaries (it was later burned and replaced), it sounds like Major Gallup led a detachment of the Third Missouri Cavalry right through the present park to the mouth of the hollow. Then they went northeast up the hollow for three miles where they fought the battle. One thing thats a little disturbing is the lack of wounded. In a typical battle there's normally four or five wounded for every man killed. I have also run across a statement written a few months later from a soldier at nearby Salem saying that company Q of the Third Missouri Cavalry kept the guerrillas in the area in "wholesome terror," and "rarely take prisoners." (This is in Inside War by Michael Fellman, p. 77). Company Q is not listed as one that actually fought in the battle, but this still leaves me wondering if some atrocities might have occurred. There was a lot of that sort of thing in Missouri in the war. In any case, here's the official report and a link to the original source. https://ehistory.osu.edu/books/official-records/019/0152 JULY 7, 1862.- Skirmish at Inman Hollow, Mo. Report of Major Henry A. Gallup, Third Missouri Cavalry. SIR: In pursuance of Special Orders, Numbers 21, from these headquarters, I took command of a detachment of 205 men of Companies B, D, G, and H, and proceeded to Crow's Station, arriving there at 1 a, m, on Sunday. The next morning I sent Company G, in charge of Sergeant Haines, with the wagons, direct to Salem, and proceeded with the other three companies to Stevenson's Mill, on the Current River, leaving a detachment of 15 men at Spring Creek, to reconnoiter and get such information as was to be obtained of the whereabouts of any rebel force that was in that vicinity. Monday morning, the 7th instant, I sent Lieutenant Avery back to Spring Creek with Company H, to go from that place to Salem, and proceeded down the river with the two remaining companies to the mouth of Inman Hollow. Learning that several bands of rebels had been seen the night before about the head of this Hollow, and receiving information that there was a rebel camp, 200 strong, in that vicinity, I proceeded up the Hollow-searching closely for indications of an enemy. After proceeding about 3 miles 5 rebels were discovered getting corn from a barn on the road-side. Lieutenant Agnew, with the advance guard, drove them into the camp on the opposite side of the road, closely followed by Company B, Captain Glover commanding, charging the camp at full speed. The rebels fled precipitately, leaving coats, blankets, and arms on the ground. Owing to the distance at which they heard the firing from the house, they were flying in every direction when we arrived at their camp. We succeeded, however,, in killing 11, mortally wounding 1, and taking 1 prisoner, with several horses and mules. Their arms we were obliged to destroy, as we had no means of transportation. Two Hall's carbines, 1 German carbine, and 1 revolver pistol were saved. From Inman Hollow we marched to Salem, and encamped for the night. On Tuesday morning I left Company H, with several horses of other companies, unable to travel for want of shoes, and proceeded direct to these headquarters, having directed Lieutenant Avery to proceed to this place on Wednesday following. I am, colonel, your obedient servant, H. A. GALLUP, Major Third Missouri Cavalry.

Even better. It's still worth a look, since you are still likely to greater velocities than other factory ammo, based on load data I've seen. The powder formulation plays into it, too. It is a bit more expensive, and that might not be worth it if you're only taking shots at 100 yards.

Thank you, Gavin. I will hopefully be at Montauk this summer and might check it out. I can certainly do some research knowing the name.

Check out Hornaday's leverevolution ammo on their website. If you are not familiar with it, the bullets have rubberized tips that allow you to use the pointed bullets in a tubular magazine. If memory serves, the 160 grainers run something like 3" high at a 100 yards and dead on at 200 yards.

In an old thread in the Montauk state park section (see below), I came across a couple references to a "civil war battlefield campground" out past the Eagle's park near the turn off toward Tan Vat. (this campground itself sounds like it was insubstantial, defunct, a remnant, etc.) Anyone familiar with the local tradition? I haven't located any information about a skirmish or civil war campsite near the present park (at least not on the 'net). I'll check some books and old records later. The references are in this thread: http://forums.ozarkanglers.com/topic/25084-helpwhere-to-camp/?tab=comments#comment-163203

Thanks for the replies.

Their website looks a bit out of date. Is Eagle's park still a going concern? I'd be interested in camping there this sumer as I require only the most basic of tent sites and it's a bit cheaper than the park.

We would be more interested more in the lower section. My father is not a trout fisherman and would be more interested in bass and other warmwater species.

Thanks, that's helpful.

Thank you for the replies. Very helpful.

My elderly father and I have tossed around the idea of floating and fishing a Missouri stream next June. He's got a 12 ft. Aluminum semi-V-Bottom with a 6 HP outboard. If we floated from one of the accesses near Bennett Spring , how much portaging would we have to do? We'd be interested in any rivers you'd recommend in the western half of the state .We'd be targeting LM or SM bass, panfish, etc. Trout would be a welcome bonus.

I'm researching some trip ideas for the coming year and was wondering what we would need in terms of a boat. My Father has a 12 ft.,aluminum, semi-V-bottom. 800 lb. weight capacity and 6hp outboard. My hunch is that it would be too small and we'd need to rent something bigger.

A rock when I was a kid, numerous clams, a few beer cans.

Good to see this. I detest poachers.

I happened to spot this from the Missouri state parks website: "The swimming pool will not be opening Memorial Day weekend due to the pump being under flood water preventing needed electrical repairs." There may be life for the pool after all. https://mostateparks.com/advisory/81361/swimming-pool-opening-delayed-bennett-spring-state-park

That's a good point. I hope that's what it was. If they do show up, maybe they will feast on Asian carp. I'm in Kansas, but up along the Missouri River.

I don't get to go there as much as many of you, but I can see why that bridge is irksome to those of you who are taxpayers. I'm not keen on the swimming pool decision, either. Could they at least designate a swim area on the Niangua over in the canoe launch area? I've never been over there to really check it out, myself. I don't use the pool as I go there to catch trout on the fly. However, to me Bennett Spring is the place it is because of so many people who went there every summer as kids, and now they go there with there kids and even grandkids. Swarms of happy kids have as much to do with that place as much as anything, and a pool helps that.

This is helpful, but want to know, can it be fished at all in those conditions? It's more of a backup plan in case Taney isn't fishable, and I'm not in any way opposed to fishing with conventional tackle/methods even from the bank.

Largemouth bass will pound them, too.

Green sunfish don't have red eyes, and I don't think warmouth have them either Green sunfish generally have that blue speckling along the cheeks as well as the body. That's really a giveaway. Notice in the pics of the warmouth there tends to be some black spots, but no blue speckling. Green sunfish can be very dark colored, but that blue speckling is normally present. Also that orange around the edges of the fins. Warmouth I've seen generally don't have much orange on the fins. Warmouth tend to be darker without as much yellow/green. If you look closely at the photos provided by mocarp and compare the rear-bottom of the dorsal fin, you'll also see a pattern on the warmouth that the green sunfish doesn't have. That pattern is on your fish as well.

Agreed: warmouth.

I've thought of that, and it's a possibility. Any insights on Powersite?