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Yes, good idea thanks would allow to play around with different trailers, thanks!

@BilletHead Interesting you ask, I was worried about that, but when stripped they collapse very little it looks good while swimming. Beadalon pic is shown below. Also, I have two models, one with Beadalon, the other completely rigid using bead wire, pic also below. It's heavier, but will not foul up. The beadalon did not foul much if i casted with sinking line, and applied good casting form. i.e. wait for back cast to straighten. Need to test it's durability, I'm woried about kinking. Here as some more detailed pics for the beadalon version first, following that I'll have pics for the rigid wire version. Would love to hear about enhancement modifications. Here's the Beadalone, Beadlone spool I used size 12 down eye streamer hooks and clipped them. Tied in with the down eye out and wrapped and glued the beadalone. I think this down eye approach helps to keep it flared out when swimming. Also, ty in at the front clouser so that the dumbell eyes fulcrum out the bead alone, again helps keep it flared out. The trailer is tied in like an articulated streamer with a long beadalon strand, It's kind of thick, i used some wraps and Glue to keep it together, defiantly can be improved. Now for the rigid version... Here's the bead wire version, bought at Michael's same section as beadalon. one side has a nail head, with allows it to be tyed in nicely at the dumbell eyes. the trick is to wrap and glue one top, one bottom, each side. Layering the thread wraps and glue makes it sturdy. the trailer is glued and wrapped and glued onto the dead wire. I have a version the uses beadalone for the trailer, but it kept wrapping around the wire satellite bucktail when casting. It caught fish, but had to keep unfouling. so I changed to rigid wire. DISCLAIMER: don't have a lot of sea time with these, hit a couple ponds to see them swim, cast, caught fish, but still need to test more, which I plan on doing, Hoping others can help adapt and test. Need to get some big fish hooked up. You can also put nice bends in it to shape as desired. Also, it kind of gives makes it a little snag free, I casted it an under water brush pile and could feel it bounce off

@tjmGood idea using shanks, I'll try tying the trailing clouser weightless and see how is swims, it might make it swim more. The front dumbell eyes provides a bulkhead where I can anchor and flare the wires or beadalone. You can "send it" casting a 7 or 8 weight with sink tip line. Thanks for the input

There's only one hook, I agree when they are on, they are on, but possibly this could get their attention at least more so than a single fly when visibility is limited, it might attract them from farther away, who knows what fish think. I'm going to do some experimenting comparing throwing a single clouser against this rig to see if it's worth the effort. will report.

It only has one hook, other hooks are clipped.

Thanks, not sure yet, going to take it through a few more sea trials before naming. Will also post a more detailed recipe.

Very, very Cool! thanks for sharing

I will do some experimenting and let folks know the results...I'll be fishing for Bass, wipers and whites at a reservoir. First quick trial run was at a pond that has shad... I fished the pattern with good action, then tied on a single clouser and did not perform as well, pond was muddy , so maybe attracted better, stand by...

I know this is arguably a fly, but gave it a try and it swims well and bass seem to like it. My version of an A-rig fly. I realize a-rigs can be controversial, but I like to push fly tying convention, so here it is... With it's bulk it's best thrown with a 7 or 8 weight, sink tip and a 6 to 7 foot, maybe down to 5 foot tapered leader. Two clousers, with bead wire or beadalon wire. Bucktail with flash are the schooling fish. Point and "weak" trailer are clousers.. point clouser hook is clipped off. The dumbell eyes provide a nice anchor and hinge point to ty the 4 wires. I connect the two clousers like a tandem streamer pattern. Have not fished it much yet, will let you know how it does. It looks good when it swims the front and back clousers keeps is level while stripping.

What's BFL? Is there a site to check out results etc?

Here's a pic.... Let me know how it works out for you.

Yea may not last as long as paint, but I recently painted some jig heads and lead streamer heads using Gel based nail polish and banged them pretty good with sink tip lines on rocks and they held up really well. My wife told me about the Gel stuff, lasts for a couple weeks and very hard to remove, it's more expensive the regular polish.

I use nail polish and then a coat of Sally Hansens hard as nails. Dries quickly seems to be durable. Feel awkward when I'm looking through the nail polish at Walmart

Sorry did not take any, will next time.

Fishing Trophy section last couple days drifting. beads, Females seemed to be full of eggs, one spilled these in my boat. About 6mm size, but they seemed to eat the 8mm. Water temp was about 45 degrees.

You can do a test on the line, put an overhand knot in it, then pull from both directions.. if bad it will quickly break at the knot without much pressure.

Created a SMS text app you can use if you need knot tying instructions in a pinch. Text knot to 913.270.0360

@Ryan Miloshewski Saw your reports, was looking for you out Tuesday, but had not connected your text with Brad, K and K and this forum until now. Let's hit Clinton sometime. I fish out of a Towee up here in KC.

Interesting, will give that a try, what where eating them? I had good luck with purple and white with Whites , Wipers, and Crappie. What are you catching with the red and white Mr Billet Head?

Reading reports about Sculpin success at Taney inspired this "Big Head Sculpin" pattern. Head is lead wire with UV resin, painted with nail polish and Sally Hansen's hard as nails. Marabou and Angora goat dubbing, palmered with a black wire makes up the body. Collar/fins is bucktail.

I use to fish with felt, but found the soles on the Orvis Pro BOA's , like not having to deal with shoe laces, while expensive worked in all fishing conditions. Super slick free stone water out west and our local waters. Also is useful for scrambling around on rocks, where felt can be dicey.

I live most of the time in Kansas, sad to say I've never fished Milford, but ditto what Ryan says about the wipers, whites, and Bass. Would love to hear about your experience.

@Phil Lilley Thanks for the report and posting Mr. Dickey's deep water slip bobber technique. Reminds me of center pin fishing with a float, never done it myself, but know lots of folks up north use it for steelhead and such. You ever give it a try? Thinking it could be successful with big generation at Taney or the White for that matter?

I used to ride mountain bikes back in the day and often ran into folks riding horses, we where taught to stop and get off our bikes to let horses pass. The silent fast movement triggered the horses predator instincts and they could buck riders off. Guessing the Bull got his "Macho" instinct triggered"

The scuds/sowbugs patterns you are showing in the PIC might have to big a profile. If they are in a scud eating frenzy then they might work, but scud bite does not seem to be in that state currently. I like Mr Babler's suggestion to grab some scuds from Lilley's. Also, color can matter, usually can't go wrong with tan and gray. I fish then under a float, but have also just dragged them, getting a drag free drift is not really required. more important to make sure they are on the bottom or really close. Also, I would fish a size 14 or 16.