Might try calling Flip and see if he's got any of the old Air Cell fly line. I was trying to get some of the flies I had seen Jim Teeny use on one fishing show for catching salmon, but couldn't find any place that had them. I looked up his name and called the phone number listed thinking I might get a fly shop. He answered and thought that I was one of his big time fishing buddies playing a joke. I apologized and he asked how I got his number. Told him I got it off the internet and asked if he had a store where I could buy some. He took the order for a half dozen flies and was actually very polite. Those nymphs I bought still didn't work as well as the so called "parasite" patterns that Ed Elersic showed us how to tie.