Harps

What makes Stanley Creek the place to be? Seems like the closer we got to it, the worse the conditions were. After we left I was on the side of the fence of not planning a trip back there, but maybe we just hit the calendar wrong. Smallieflys proved the potential for nice fish there and I would still like to catch a bowfin on the fly........ I may try to add some pics in a day or two, too much going on at the homestead....

Probably true..............sigh..................smh......................

Those darters are cool, wish they grew to 30 inches.

That looks like a really nice boat. Interested to see how you like it.

In for further reports — I wanna see how well those work for you. My boat didn't come with mounts but I bought some factory ones and haven't mounted them yet. Didn't think about knee-room. What's your source for them and cost?

Much good here. Thanks Billethead. Right on Pat!!

That would have been nice........but didn't happen.

The irony....

Each main arm of the lake has a stream running into it. The south arm has a small creek that I don't know the name of, but it can push a lot of water in if we get substantial rain. The north arm of the lake has the Little Sac River coming in on the eastern end which almost always has some amount of flow to it. Those two streams can really muddy up the water in that lake at times, although most of the time the lake is pretty clear. The outflow of the lake is the Little Sac River. Figuring out the fish in that lake can prove challenging.

Thanks Mr Liphunter. You a former Goat owner?

Figured that had to be the case, I'd never heard of Piney Beach either...... I am un-experienced of Gasconade.

Pat has been on my prayer list big time the past few weeks and he's doing quite well for the situation. I'll be visiting and hanging out with him next weekend.

I was going to suggest this book until I got deep enough into this discussion to see someone else already had. One of the best plain-spoken accounts of the beginnings of the commercial float industry in the Ozarks and the fishing that was available then. A rare book if you can find it and worth the effort. I bought several from Mrs. Sare and was disappointed to learn Mr. Sare had passed by the time I found his book. Would have enjoyed a talk with him. I'm really thankful he put his experiences in writing.

My interest primarily is in native fish anymore. Here I want to catch SM and LM and Gar and furthermore. When I go to the Appalachia I want to catch brookies. When I go out west I want to catch cutthroat. I'm not necessarily interested in brown or rainbow in either of those places, but I will enjoy them if I catch them. I fish for trout locally but it's not something that I get uppity about. I haven't caught a carp on my fly rod yet but it's on the 'bucket list,' along with a several other native and non-natives. I'm gonna tie flys and see what I can catch and I'm not going to worry too much about what the other guy is catching or how he's catching it as long as he's finding joy in it and doing it legally. I'm fully aware that piles of money are spent on non-native fishes, as well as some terrestrials and aerials. If all that ceased and the energy was spent on natives instead (or sometime eradication of non-natives) I would be fine with it. Carp are doing beyond fine without our assistance. There are 20+ pounders laying in virtually every piece of fishable water I've seen in Missouri, so I just can't spend too much energy worrying about them. Carry on and enjoy YOUR chosen pursuit.

An issue? Carp are so widely available in so many waters here in the states that I can't really see that as an issue. And they're a non-native here so I sure don't want to see any precious wildlife funding spent on them.

Who gives a chit? Why do you guys care what somebody wants to catch or how they want to catch as long as it’s legal?

#PATSTRONG.

I feel a half decade more ignorant just reading this.

How long did you float? There's like a week of river between Boiling Spring and the Gasconade. I'm confused, maybe.

No.

The Zen-master says no less than 12lb for smallies, that's about 1x I guess. Wrench knows the Zen-master (Xen-master). Cool flys.

Probably would have never been an issue if somebody didn't turn the river bottom into a cow pasture right up to the edge of the river.

Apparently MoCarp was thinking of the same Spring River that I was. Which subspecies is in which Spring River here?

Any further on this?