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Jerry Rapp, on 04 Mar 2014 - 5:44 PM, said: I'm thinkin Jerry's favorite bait is called a Buzzkill? I don't care if there was a scuba diver secretly hooking up the bass for him. Seein your old man catch the biggest fish of his life is a great story! Enjoyed reading about it !

As I posted in an earlier thread: Viney Creek- This 98 acre park is located on the south shore of the White River arm near Golden, MO (Plate PM–24). Facilities include a park booth, 46 campsites, three picnic sites, one shower house with restrooms, one restroom, swim beach, playground, launch ramp, courtesy dock, and RV dump station. Water is supplied by a permitted well and sewage is disposed of through a permitted discharging system. Wastewater and sludge is intermittently removed by a contractor. At the drafting of this Final Master Plan, Viney Creek Park is slated for temporary closure based on a park efficiency review process. However, the park is receptive for potential lease to public or private entities through a real estate process. If adequate funding becomes available for park operation future improvements include the following: Re-open park. Rehabilitation and modernization to campsites 1- 4, and 29 - 43, including upgrading utilities to 50 amp electric service and water to each site. Construct a group pavilion with day use parking.

real simple to renew on-line. you can save the file and print it again if you lose it. Or, print 2 copies, one for your wallet and one to keep in the boat. https://www.mo.wildlifelicense.com/start.php

I know what my wife better say if she is asked that question!

This just in! From the new Master Plan: The entire document can be found here: http://www.swl.usace.army.mil/Missions/Planning/TableRockMasterPlanUpdate.aspx Viney Creek- This 98 acre park is located on the south shore of the White River arm near Golden, MO (Plate PM–24). Facilities include a park booth, 46 campsites, three picnic sites, one shower house with restrooms, one restroom, swim beach, playground, launch ramp, courtesy dock, and RV dump station. Water is supplied by a permitted well and sewage is disposed of through a permitted discharging system. Wastewater and sludge is intermittently removed by a contractor. At the drafting of this Final Master Plan, Viney Creek Park is slated for temporary closure based on a park efficiency review process. However, the park is receptive for potential lease to public or private entities through a real estate process. If adequate funding becomes available for park operation future improvements include the following: Re-open park. Rehabilitation and modernization to campsites 1- 4, and 29 - 43, including upgrading utilities to 50 amp electric service and water to each site. Construct a group pavilion with day use parking.

43-45 around KC at 3 PM today.

What is the scientific reason why we're seeing the shad kill in KC area and not in upper lake?

This lure will never work! Not unless you put some dang hooks on it!

A couple of observations from a guy who has had several boats -that Ranger looks like a sweet deal! If we all think so, then there are others who will, too! Are you sure it will still be around when you get your refund? -batteries? I assume this boat would have a cranking battery & 2 TM batteries? check the dates on batteries, and maybe test them? Cost to replace all 3 would be at least in the $250-300 range. does it include a charger? -check the gas line & bulb for wear or age. this is one of the easiest things to replace and can ward off several problems. -don't forget about the other costs associated with buying and owning a boat: insurance,sales tax, personal property tax, plates for the trailer, stickers for boat and motor, life jackets, rope, bumpers, fire extinguisher, etc. -also figure in your annual gas & oil costs, along with any repair costs. you will probably need to winterize it and change out your lower unit oil every year, which you can do yourself, but if not, that's another $150-200 And lastly, you will need more rods & lures! No self-respecting bass boat owner would think of going out on the water with anything less than 12 rods and 300 pounds of terminal tackle.

EXACTLY! not to mention that I sometimes will get bit on the initial free fall as the bait swings down under the bobber. I usually just twitch the rod tip sporadically and keep bobber in place. with a slip bobber, that is very hard to do. Also, as quillback mentioned, you can work the rig back to you with the retrieve. I will say that a slip bobber might be easier when landing the fish, if you could reel the bobber stop through the line guides! Trying to hold a 9' rod up in the air high enough to clear a 12' leader AND either lip or net the fish is a real test of the old wing span, especially with several layers under insulated coveralls!

Have only used it a few times this Winter, with pretty poor results. In past years, I have done very well with it. I use a 3 way swivel with bobber on one leg, 10-12' leader on one and of course main line to other. 9 foot rod with fireline on reel, 6-8 lb fluoro on leader, and a small (1/16") Punisher jig. Best results have been on bluffends, or bluff cuts in 30'+. Trees or timber nearby is usually a good thing.

Agreed! It's because we have a kind and caring moderator who does a great job of keeping us 'on the tracks'. Maybe we should start referring to Mr Lilley as "Dr. Phil"?

Phil, Do NOT feel any regret for posting these videos. You, as always, were just trying to add to the flavor of this forum, and we all appreciate the time you spend keeping us all informed. Eric, I owe you an apology. After re-reading my post, I realize that I did not convey the right message. What I should have said is that I have found Pete's reports to be more accurate for me and the way I fish. Like many of us, I usually only find time to fish on weekends when the fishing pressure is at it's peak, and every point has a boat on it. This Winter has been less than stellar for me, and maybe I have been spoiled by some previous great Winter fishing? But, I shouldn't vent my frustration on you or anyone who is doing well. I own a small business, so I definitely understand why you want to promote your service. Anytime you deal with the public, you will always be open to criticism, jealousy and worse. I have no problem with how many days you spend on the water, because you still are out there at least twice as often as I am. I have been fishing this Lake for almost 50 years, and I would say that most of the good things I have learned have been through people like yourself. I have hired guides dozens of times, and always take something positive from the experience, even if we didn't catch much. I would encourage you to reconsider your involvement with this forum. There really are some great folks on here! But, sometimes our "Ozark" shows! Not only are we "Show-Me" staters, but we tend to speak our mind before our brains and heart engage. And God knows, we will argue about anything, especially things we know absolutely nothing about. I wish you the best in your business and your fishing.

Thanks, Bill! I was hoping someone would jump in on this. I have found Pete's reports to be good, and he will say when, or if, he has been out in the past week. And he also shares some good tips on how to rig and use certain baits. I have learned quite a bit from him. As for his reports, I think he's usually pretty close on what's happening out there. He'll tell you when it's tough, and doesn't get too excited when it's good. I found Eric's report to be self-promoting and not very accurate. Not sure where he has been fishin lately, but he makes it sound like fishin is great right now on the Rock? My personal experience, and that of many guys who are a lot better than me, is that this Winter has pretty much sucked so far! Can't remember struggling like this to find and catch Winter fish.

This is a great thread! Notice that none of the guys mentioned has a distinct physical advantage. While there is definitely an endurance factor associated with Tournament fishing, you don't have to be 6' 6", 285 lbs and run a 4.5 40 to be a great angler! A lot of the new guys on the scene are in great physical condition, but I think that just goes along with their overall committment and passion to be the best. In many sports, you can be successful and make a lot of money if you are born with certain physical attributes. But, as is proven almost every day on the Sports page, some of these guys are stupid as hell, lazy, or both! So, what makes a great fisherman? I'm pretty sure Bill Gates didn't play with computers in his crib, and I don't think Warren Buffet or Sam Walton were reading the Financial page at age 2? What these top fisherman have, and what all successful people have, is a passion to excel at something they love, and the cajones to commit to it! I think many of them would be successful at any number of things that they had that same passion for. Maybe the best auto mechanic, or the best stock broker, or whatever? Don't you think that Vince Lombardi would have been a great General or a great CEO? And maybe, it's not about being THE Best, but being YOUR best? Heck, if there was a competition that involved drinking beer, eating BBQ and taking naps, my name might appear on the 'best-ever' list?

There are 2 reasons why everybody says dirty water is warmer. One reason is the water may be stained or dirty because of runoff, which in the Spring can be rain that is typically warmer than the water and it also can be warmed by ground temp or sunlight as it runs in to lake. Theoretically, dirty or stained water will warm quicker and stay warmer because of the particles in the water that absorb heat directly from the Sun or from air temp. On the other hand, clear water runs deep. In the deeper areas, as the top layer cools, becomes denser and drops, the warmer water from underneath replaces it. So, you are correct in your assumptions that the surface temp of shallower water can actually be colder than deep water. In the Spring, it can be just the opposite.

Oh, I see now that on the second pic the time is cut off and I'm seeing minutes and seconds. I thought maybe you were using 2 identical units. But, it does show "pm".

Bill, you have 4 screen pics up. I assume your clock is off? Obviously, you weren't out there after 9PM? But on pic 2, the time is 6:44 pm? Are you using 2 identical units; hull and TM mount? great post! I think we all are re-thinking how we can better use our electronics!

We have 3 slips (I own 2, my Son has 1) on a 20 slip community dock. If I'm on our dock when other fisherman come by, I'll tell them which slips usually hold fish, or I tell them about the rockpile I put in a few years back when the lake was really low. Have had some real nice conversations with folks that have come by to fish. If I have been out recently, I'll even tell them where I had luck out on the lake. And, I have never had any issues when I have fished other people's docks.

speaking of Christmas trees. if you see an old fake one that someone is throwing out, or if you have one you don't use? They work great! You can bend the branches any which way, or you can cut a few off. you do need to weight them down, though. The one I put out was great! tied the top to half of a cinder block, dropped it down top first, and then tied the bottom to support rail on dock. Held crappie and bass for several years. Unfortunately, I have no idea where it is now? Last flood, it broke loose.

saw a video somewhere about PVC attractors. showed the guy roughing up the pipe with coarse sandpaper before putting them under water. apparently, doing that allows larger micro-organisms, algae, etc to adhere better. also remember him drilling large holes (3/8" or so) in the pipe, but don't remember the reason? maybe a hiding place for small minnows, fry?

2 years ago, I did real well with the FnF. 10.5 ' rod with fireline and then a 3 way swivel, 8 lb fluoro, foam bobber, punisher jig. 13 ' was the most depth I could get and still cast the thing with any degree of reliability. But, there were times when that extra few feet made a difference! Definitely got more bites at 12' or deeper than in the 8-10' range. Little tougher to cast. You have to use a fly rod type windup, but not that tough once you get the hang of it. The hardest thing for me was netting or lipping the fish once I caught them! Kinda comical trying to hold that long rod up in the air while reaching down while wearing all those layers!

Got a note back from the Corps. The land between my house and the Lake is to be treated as any public hunting area. No special restrictions regarding distance from houses, caliber or methods used. Exceptions would be public parks or land in the incorporated areas like Kimberling, Branson, Indian Point, etc. Anyone know a good deer processor around Joe Bald area?

Biggest problem I have is finding the time to hunt. When I look out and see the Lake, I just have to go fish. But, I am going to pick off a few of those greys this week, if I can. My wife is Italian, and she has an old family recipe for Squirrel polenta that is fantastic! She braises the meat in olive oil, then simmers it in a big pot of red sauce and cooks it up. Then, she puts a big dollop of polenta on the plate, layers some thin-sliced mozzarella on top, and then ladles the sauce and squirrel on top.

I have had good luck with it. For some reason, last Winter was not very productive? 2 years ago, it was my main deal during the Winter.