Camp Zoe Seized By The Feds

[flytyer57]

Yeah, keeping a keen eye on it...I'm just tired of editing words related to bodily functions from the post.

Now what were the 7 words that can't be posted here without the fear of being arrested?

Let's see, there was sh... pi... fu...

[stlfisher]

Ha Ha! The way they were piling on Ness, I was afraid someone was going to hurt his feelings but he seems to be holding his own..... There have been way too many personal attacks as of lately.

I agree. There is away to disagree and a way not too. I would be willing to bet 99% of the people on this board would enjoy meeting, fishing, and chatting with some of the people they attack. I am not sure why people have to be blasted all the time if there opinions differ. If you wouldn't say it to there face then don't say it over the internet.

[Gavin]

Ness...I know that he's had his ears boxed worse than you fellows could ever give....

Ness has been a friend of mine for. 10-12 years. Always a gentleman...Great conversation, fun to fish with, plus he's one of the first off his arse if something needs doing in camp.......no complaints...lots of laughs!

Time to pull the plug on this one....or if you wish to continue...lets do it round a campfire near a river someplace. Cheers.

[fishinwrench]

Perfect example of this is Razorback Football Games in Fayetteville. Alcohol is prohibited on campus. If you were caught walking in a parking lot with an open container on any other day than game day you would be looking at an open container ticket at a minimum. If you were over the limit you would be headed downtown for public intox. On game day it is a look the other way attitude by law enforcement. Why is this? Because you don't want to hack of the donors who fill your coffers to pay the expenses to keep the program alive. The law is no alcohol on campus but it is set aside to fit the day and need. Same thing happens in in the luxury boxes at games. The alcohol flows and is over looked however the guy who carries a flask in and gets caught sees the game from the pigscreen outside the stadium

Yep, it's the same way here at Lake O during the "Shootout" and "Poker runs". They are like stink on poop looking for boat operators over .08 all year long...Except during these big revenue building functions, where a blind eye is turned and the whole lake is a free for all.

And the ironic thing is: an increase in boating accidents has never occured when everyone is allowed to let their hair down and have fun.

There is away to disagree and a way not too. I would be willing to bet 99% of the people on this board would enjoy meeting, fishing, and chatting with some of the people they attack. I am not sure why people have to be blasted all the time if there opinions differ. If you wouldn't say it to there face then don't say it over the internet

We are all friends here. Anyone who takes this banter personal and stays pissy for more than a minute or two is just being too thin-skinned and emotional IMO.

[Chief Grey Bear]

MMMMMMMMMM. We seem to be missing a whole post.

[Fly_Guy]

Foul language like an Arkansas Razorback reference is apparently not tolerated

[dennis boatman]

Is there any place to fish on this property?

[David Unnerstall]

I am going to offer my comments on this. I think by assuming big government is running amok and creating a police state we are becoming a little paranoid. Many of those in authority have been abusing their power for as long as I have been around and will continue to do so. Separate actions by some zealous individuals does not necessarily mean there is a conspiracy on this. Now there has been a lot of effort, in recent years, to get tougher on crime by the law-and-order folks. How many of us haven't said that we are tired of government letting criminals go un-punished. Maybe what we are seeing is a result of that effort.

[flytyer57]

I am going to offer my comments on this. I think by assuming big government is running amok and creating a police state we are becoming a little paranoid. Many of those in authority have been abusing their power for as long as I have been around and will continue to do so. Separate actions by some zealous individuals does not necessarily mean there is a conspiracy on this. Now there has been a lot of effort, in recent years, to get tougher on crime by the law-and-order folks. How many of us haven't said that we are tired of government letting criminals go un-punished. Maybe what we are seeing is a result of that effort.

Tough on crime, yes. But nowhere in the article did it say that there are any charges to a crime against the owner of the property in question.

[Mitch f]

I found this article regarding this:

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/2010/11/camp_zoe_schwagstock_seized_drugs_attorney_dea_st_louis.php

"Federal asset forfeiture law dates back to the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act of 1970, a law aimed at seizing profits earned by organized crime. In 1978 Congress broadened RICO to include drug violations. But it was the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984 that made forfeiture the lucrative, widely used law enforcement tool it is today...

...According to a 1992 Cato Institute study examining the early results of the Comprehensive Crime Control Act, total federal forfeiture revenues increased by 1,500 percent between 1985 and 1991. The Justice Department's forfeiture fund (which doesn't include forfeitures from customs agents) jumped from $27 million in 1985 to $644 million in 1991; by 1996 it crossed the $1 billion line, and as of 2008 assets had increased to $3.1 billion. According to the government's own data, less than 20 percent of federal seizures involved property whose owners were ever prosecuted."