MOBass Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 There IS a bit of a cover-up when it comes to CC accidents. It happens pretty frequently yet seldom makes the news. Interesting. What % of CC holders have experienced a negligent discharge? How many of those have resulted in injury? Since I can not readily find this information on the news where are you getting your numbers from?
ColdWaterFshr Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Let me summarize the article and clean up the drivel it is written in..... Three armed, masked men in the process of committing a violent felony, attempting to steal firearms and cash were slowed in their efforts by an armed citizen. And this is the childish FANTASY scenario you like to imagine yourself in. Coming to the rescue. You want to be Batman, don't you? don't you??
Old plug Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 And this is the childish FANTASY scenario you like to imagine yourself in. Coming to the rescue. You want to be Batman, don't you? don't you?? Times 3 at. least. I think a lot of the comments made on here come from people with no military experience. I said aclot not all by any means.
Terrierman Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Times 3 at. least. I think a lot of the comments made on here come from people with no military experience. I said aclot not all by any means. That experience does tend to help one get over being fascinated with guns and gunplay and thinking/worrying about needing to shoot another person. It sure got me over any sort of fascination with M-16's and other military style weapons. I still have plenty of guns and used to shoot a lot. Not nearly as much anymore. And I'm hardly ever very far from a gun or two. But all the hassle of carrying one? No thank you. Just do not feel the need at all.
MOBass Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 And this is the childish FANTASY scenario you like to imagine yourself in. Coming to the rescue. You want to be Batman, don't you? don't you?? I do not understand the fantasy reference. This actually occurred. I merely clarified the language of a poorly written article. No rational person wants to be in a confrontation that may result in the use of lethal force. I have never been on a 'two way range', I hope that I never am. Back to the article... The specific case here is unusual in that you have armed, violent felons in the process of trying to obtain more weapons. Lethal force has already been brought into play by the criminal. It does not appear the armed citizen was in fear for his life so it gets muddy as to whether he was right in the eyes of the law. I am not versed on KS statutes regarding the use of lethal force in the protection of property, but given that the armed citizen was not charged I would say he was legally within his rights. Now morally was he right? I would lean to yes he was. Preventing violent felons from obtaining, weapons, for me passes the sniff test. The article we will never read is that weapons stolen from a sporting good store were used in a drive by shooting that resulted in the death of an innocent.
MOBass Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 For those that are placing blame on the armed citizen can you please explain why you excuse the actions of the criminals involved that resulted in this situation? A good guy with a gun draws on three violent felons that are hauling off firearms and cash and the guy that draws is somehow in the wrong does not compute with me. The unfortunate thing in all of this is that the minors involved will likely get a slap on the wrist and continue on to commit more violent acts in the future. I hope they will all be tried as adults and sentenced as such. That would be the best outcome to this. Smalliebigs and Daryk Campbell Sr 2
ColdWaterFshr Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 I do not understand the fantasy reference. This actually occurred. I merely clarified the language of a poorly written article. The fantasy is the very low probability of YOU ever finding yourself in this scenario, and actually being able to do something about it in such a heroic fashion, and without any legal ramifications as others have noted, and without shooting yourself in the foot, or a bystander, or misunderstanding a situation completely and making a bad situation worse. YOU, there with your trusty sidearm and your fearless bravado saving the day, just like Batman. Thats the fantasy. I wonder how many concealed carry doofuses know how to do CPR? A skill that doesn't require a permit, no risk of carrying it, and far more commonly needed in order to "save the day" . . . .
Old plug Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Well when I was a young buck. I was sitting at a bar in a wild Honky Tonk. His guy ask this fellas sister to dance. The brother said no is what the report said. Well he was leaving the table and the brother jumped up and walked up to him and blew his head apart about 10 ft from my back. About 1/2 of us sitting there at the bar had bone, skin and brain fragments all over us. Not a nice thing to experience. Yet I think secretly some of tou would like to have aexcuse to do something like that.
ColdWaterFshr Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 The article we will never read is that weapons stolen from a sporting good store were used in a drive by shooting that resulted in the death of an innocent. No, the article we will never read is the concealed carry dude who has his gun stolen from his cars glovebox, or his home, and it is used by the criminal to kill or commit crimes.
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