5bites Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Hmmm. Well as in all things fishing y'all are making this way more technical and specialized than necessary, but I understand the OCD pleasure of all that, so by all means carry on. What works and what works best are two different things. I can do it with slower rods and deeper spools but the actual physics of it forces it to perform better with the right equipment. You can drive a nail with a crescent wrench but why?
fishinwrench Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Well, because it's all subjective. What works best for one guy is not tits for all. I use a 6'6" Med/Hvy and a fully spooled 4600C most often and I can slide a bait in there and wrestle a fish out with the best of them. I can also do it with A 7' heavy, and probably could pull it off just fine with a 5'6" pistol grip, but who cares? There's no need to have a special rod dedicated for shooting docks. If you WANT one, fine, but it ain't a hammer/wrench thing by any means. What truly matters is boat positioning and the ability to get the boat positioned good without spooking the fish. Trick casting is a neat way to show-off if you are just really anxious to cast but in most cases you can position the boat so as to eliminate the chances of a blown cast and a spooked fish. I guess it depends on whether your real goal is to catch the fish.... or impress the guy in the back with your trick casting skills. conorsixtakc 1
5bites Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 It's not subjective in real life at all. A spool that starts up sooner will let the bait get lower faster and lift less. A lighter spool not only starts up sooner but is more responsive to changes during the cast. No way around that. Now I'm not doubting your skill at all. If you can skip jigs with a deep sea reel then that's awesome. There is a mechanical advantage to the equipment I described though. Not hard to figure out. Same thing with a slow action rod. They tend to lift the bait into the cast. The faster the better. Again if you've overcome that great. I imagine you'd be quite a bit better with a light spooled reel and a fast rod though. Length, that's getting into the subjective part. Speed gets distance and length gets speed but there's more to it than that so that's why length is more of a comfort thing. I like a 7'ish rod. I know a guy that uses nothing under 7'6" which for me is to long. I'll go 7'3" sometimes but it's not my favorite setup. Action is more important than length. So so by all means use a Calcutta 400 on a 6' moderate action rod. All I can say is good luck. The impressing people part is a jab? I fish with my kids, or usually someone that can skip also. I enjoy dock fishing and it's an advantage to know. It's got zero to do with pleasing others. Not sure why that was even brought up in a discussion trying to help someone that might be new to trying it. I sure wish I would have understood things better starting out! conorsixtakc 1
fishinwrench Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Not a jab, man. My intention was just to encourage guys to get started without feeling that they needed to go spend 250 bones on a specialized rig or else they were wasting their time. Truth be told you can do just about everything in bass-fishing with a 6'6" med w/14# line.
5bites Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Not a jab, man. My intention was just to encourage guys to get started without feeling that they needed to go spend 250 bones on a specialized rig or else they were wasting their time. Truth be told you can do just about everything in bass-fishing with a 6'6" med w/14# line. I'm not arguing that in the least. There are good ol' all around setups that cover lots of techniques. I say the same thing about a 7'mh. It's just a good do all rod. I in no way meant to imply anyone was wasting there time with whatever current equipment they had. Like anything though there are proper tools for the job. If I'm going to try to teach someone though I'd rather tell them what works best. By all means use what you got but since this is a fishing forum to help others we might as well give people the best information possible if we truly want to help. It's not opinion or just chasing gadgets. Those things are factual advantages to skipping and pitching.
Mitch f Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Well, because it's all subjective. What works best for one guy is not tits for all. I use a 6'6" Med/Hvy and a fully spooled 4600C most often and I can slide a bait in there and wrestle a fish out with the best of them. I can also do it with A 7' heavy, and probably could pull it off just fine with a 5'6" pistol grip, but who cares? There's no need to have a special rod dedicated for shooting docks. If you WANT one, fine, but it ain't a hammer/wrench thing by any means. What truly matters is boat positioning and the ability to get the boat positioned good without spooking the fish. Trick casting is a neat way to show-off if you are just really anxious to cast but in most cases you can position the boat so as to eliminate the chances of a blown cast and a spooked fish. I guess it depends on whether your real goal is to catch the fish.... or impress the guy in the back with your trick casting skills. I think Wrench is on the right track here. Not spooking the fish is half the battle. "Honor is a man's gift to himself" Rob Roy McGregor
WeekendWarrior Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I thought donging a jig off a lift or wacking a float woke them up for dinner ? *T* and Mitch f 2
Members mikes custom fly rods Posted October 8, 2015 Members Posted October 8, 2015 How many entrants were there and how many boats. I will go when I get to know the lake better. Mike brune
fishinwrench Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 I thought donging a jig off a lift or wacking a float woke them up for dinner ? oh man! Nothing ticks me off worse than idling 1/2 mile back into a cove, getting all set up, and then ringing the gong with your first pitch.
WeekendWarrior Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 oh man! Nothing ticks me off worse than idling 1/2 mile back into a cove, getting all set up, and then ringing the gong with your first pitch. yep, but it does happen, even to the best of them
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