Lets talk game plans/strategies

[dtrs5kprs]

We're about as easily distracted as a white bass that sees something shiny. Lot of interesting things come of that to be honest.

[mixermarkb]

31 minutes ago, Old plug said:

You got a good point there. And I agree with champ as well. i have fought my share of battles with the union.  I have been on both side of that coin. Unions today are not good by any means. but on the other hand I do not trust bussiness either. Your to young to know what happens if bussiness is allowed total control. My father when down into the coal mines at the age of 7. So did his brothers. You know what ? He never made a dime. They lived far out with no store are shopping. So the coal  company opened there own store at highly inflated prices. My fathers earnings went to help pay off the company store. Many weeks nobody in the family got money.they just got a reciept for how much they still owed the store. 

This was during the days of John L Lewis rying to organize the miners. The coal companies were like the steel companies they had such lo opion of the workers they kind of figured them as expendable. They along with the steel people gunned down for more minors than will ever be known. Working in a  coal mine was outrught slavery. 

My mother was a seamstress. Got paid pennies doing peice work. Worked in a large room. Where they were locked in. The windows  were kept closed because they did not want insects getting into the cloth.  There were no cieling fans.  In the summer it was so hot  some women would get sick and pass out. The answer to that was to fire them because they were not tough enough. Mom told me trying to go to the bathroom was like begging. 

These kind of things are what is going on in China and other areas. It is very clear to me bussiness supports this kind of thing. I certainly do not want to see return of that in this country. The entire labor managment thing is a very complex issue that is only part of the over all problems with this country that is coming apart at the seams. The key is attitude.  Its not going to change. But there sure is change coming. When it doe it ill make the civil war look like a skirmish. 

I'll throw another rabbit trail on the derailment..

 

Y'all be tripping if you don't think that the people that are greedy enough to walk away from $400 million in public cash and move their sportball team back to LA while lying about their obvious intent aren't also greedy enough to go back to the scenes Old Plug is describing. I'm not a union member, but I do recognize their role in a world where there is zero economic loyalty to anyone. Most large corporations have no more loyalty to America and its economy than Stab Kroenke had to St. Louis and its football fans. In decades past, you did have American captains of industry who were Americans first, capatilists second. Somewhere (from my view about the 80's) that sort of economic patriotism totally vanished. I'm 42, and while I think our country has made a lot of positive progress as far as equal rights for women and folks who have more of a tan than I do, we have lost a lot from those that lived through the Great Depression and WWII about what it means to be American and to be in this thing together. 

How's that for a derailment!!!

 

(sorry Phil, and respect to all OAF members, even those who don't agree with me, I'd share a boat with any of you)

now back to spooling line and wishing Bull wasn't 30 feet high...

 

[dtrs5kprs]

Wait a minute...St Louis had a football team? Huh.

[mixermarkb]

We did, from about 99-01ish.

[Sore Thumbs]

This season with people knowing the franchise could possibly move the Rams were last in attendance. Sounds like the people of St.louis didn't care enough about football. It's a baseball town. 

[Old plug]

ABKEENAN You have nothing to to be sorry for. The subject begged to be answered and you have a right to answer. i do not care what the thread was about. 

[Old plug]

On of the big arguments for keeoing the Rams here was it mwaht so much for downtown business. Bull. Some fan I imagine would come into town from other place and apposing cities.  The big killing was inside the stadium on game day. Those prices were so bad it drove people away. Mush cheaper to just drive outside the blackout area. Lots of them come down for the weekend here and stay in there homes. Are with friends. The parking abd traffic is another problem. Then you can get shot druving on hwy 70. Nutty Nixon wanted all of us inth e state to pay for that stadium. Sounds to me like nother Pro Bass Shop deal tax pyer pid out  loy of miney to get wildlife display built. Geeeee and just for Jonny The gypster. 

Well its time for me to get off this thing and all my rehab eexercises with the hope of returning to a good fishing seson bext year.

[tho1mas]

Ouch! That hurt my head!

[Champ188]

Regarding prespawn movements, I can't add much of anything to what dtrs5kprs had to say. Very well said.

And on the subject of wandering, perhaps Mr. McCartney said it best: "The kettle's on the boil and we're so easily called away."

I can hear the youngsters Googling away now.

[dtrs5kprs]

34 minutes ago, Champ188 said:

Regarding prespawn movements, I can't add much of anything to what dtrs5kprs had to say. Very well said.

And on the subject of wandering, perhaps Mr. McCartney said it best: "The kettle's on the boil and we're so easily called away."

I can hear the youngsters Googling away now.

Not as bad as when our post office guy dropped an Art Linkletter reference on a lady about 28 with a young child. Had to break it to him gently.