Needing help with a ned rig problem

[dtrs5kprs]

2 hours ago, mixermarkb said:

Hey Dave, give Sunline Sniper a try, and see if it lasts for you better than Invisix. I'm like Ham with his nanofil, on every thread even close to talking about line I mention it, but I like it that much. Really, really great line!

I get along just fine with Invizx. If you fish the little rig for 10hrs a day on one rod, it's going to twist. I really think mono is much worse.

[bobby b.]

On 4/23/2016 at 0:32 PM, rps said:

Line twist is why I built a baitcasting rod for the Ned. MHX SJ8600 blank rated for 6-12 line and 1/16 to 3/8 ounce lures. I have 5 lb. Maxima on the reel. I no longer have line twist, provided I get the worm on straight. I urge you all to rethink your equipment.

rps, what baitcast reel do you use?

Thanks

Bobby

[Ham]

20 hours ago, akaslyguy said:

Thanks.  I completely understand about closing the bail by hand each time.  I've been using spinning reels a long time and was taught that way at a young age.

Hey Joe,

twist on spinning reel is a fact of life. braid or nanofil reduces the impact of the twist, but those lines still get twisted. Keeping the impact of twist down to a minimum with mono, Fluor, or copolymers is an achievable goal. 

Start by putting the line on properly. Play with either side of the spool up, crank 10 or 15 times and stop and look at your line. If it seems to be twisting up, flip the spool and try another 10-15 times. Decide which side was worse. Use the better side.

when you get to the lake, before you tie a bait on, trail your spinning line behind the boat without anything tied on. I let almost all the line off taking great care to make sure the line is coming off evenly. I'm just idling along at like 3 mph hour. Keep your rod tip low. After a 1/4 mile or so, start slowly winding the line in. Again, rod tip low to the water. Your want the water pressure to get all the twist out of your line. Your drag should be set that you can pick up line without any drag coming off. I wind about 1/3 in and then drag another 400 yards before winding in another 1/3. 

everybody has different preferences for how they like their drag settings BUT never wind against the drag. Never ever. 

As Bill Babbler said, close the bail by hand. I will add to that and say every few casts AFTER you close the bail by hand, pull a few inches of line off the reel. This keeps the line tight on the spool. I have more problems as a result of loose loops coming off in a wad or from underneath the line on the top of the spool. Those floobies have a ton of twist and are usually a deal breaker for that spool of line. 

Proper spinning reel hygiene will keep floobies to a minimum.

Good Luck and Good Fishing.

[rps]

1 hour ago, bobby b. said:

rps, what baitcast reel do you use?

Thanks

Bobby

I put the lightest reel I have on the rod - an Abu Revo MGX. I know it seems like overkill, but what the hey, I already had it and the rod it was on, my topwater special, now has a Lews Speed Spool. If I were buying a new reel for the rod, the low end choice would be the Speed Spool. The more expensive choice would be the Revo Premier. Running 5 lb. Maxima on a baitcast requires higher quality reels. The light weight requires something that casts light weights well. If you asked the Tackle Tour boys, I bet they would suggest the $600 JDM modified Pixilla.

[dtrs5kprs]

Or a $60-80 Daiwa 3000 spin reel...

Hmmm...

[dan hufferd]

I bought a couple speed spools and love them. They are both 6.2:1 which is a little fast, but it makes me slow down, I am using 10lb Spider wire stealth braid, I never was a spider wire fan but I like this stealth braid pretty well. 

[dtrs5kprs]

Floobies has to be one of the top 10 words ever used on this forum. It brings up both entertaining and disturbing images.

[rps]

3 hours ago, dtrs5kprs said:

Or a $60-80 Daiwa 3000 spin reel...

Hmmm...

You are such a snob.

We need to go fishing. Pick a weekend in May. What ramp. What time. What do you want for lunch and to drink?

[bobby b.]

On 4/23/2016 at 0:32 PM, rps said:

Line twist is why I built a baitcasting rod for the Ned. MHX SJ8600 blank rated for 6-12 line and 1/16 to 3/8 ounce lures. I have 5 lb. Maxima on the reel. I no longer have line twist, provided I get the worm on straight. I urge you all to rethink your equipment.

rps, what baitcast reel do you use?

Thanks

Bobby

 

RPS, Thanks for the info on the baitcaster.  I cut off the tip of my index finger when I was young which makes spinning reels difficult to control (but doable) and thus I prefer the baitcasters if possible.  I'm starting to really like the Ned but find that the lighter weight jig heads are working better for me.  Bobby

[rps]

For those who may consider using a baitcast rod for the Ned, allow me to share something I've learned.

The weight of a half senko is more than enough to cast with, but do not snap load the rod for a power cast. Easy does it will cast the bait plenty far enough on the lighter rod and avoids the spool spin that creates over-runs.