Wonder if this can possibly happen?

[Haris122]

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On a happier note the stream teams in my neck of the woods made me sooo proud Saturday.....there were hundreds of volunteers with boats and canoes getting dirty pulling all kinds of trash out of the corridor in Valley Park Saturday.....it made me very proud and happy and conversely the Bull Float out of Leasburg completely hosed the river with silt, piss, vomit and litter to the extreme

Yeah, there did seem to be a lot of people. I got there in the morning, had to leave in the middle, then went back and it was getting hard finding enough trash. At least from 141 downstream to Unger. However, someone left a good number of bags at a trail (probably cause they were heavy), and no one picked those up. I think that was bad organization on their part. I waited until yesterday and then decided to pick that stuff up and take it to the dumpsters. Brings me to another point, they should've had a few dumpsters on the southern side of the river too. I could see the dumpsters at Greentree from Unger, but had to drive miles just to get somewhere to toss it.

Do they ever do cleanup further downstream? Lower Meramec and especially Butler, are not short of trash.

[timinmo]

The Arnold Stream Team (209? or 211?) is very active.  I think if you check, you will find they are constantly cleaning and picking up.  They do a wonderful job.  Anyone who has not participated in Operation Clean Stream should give it a try.  It is one of the most rewarding activities around.  It always feels good to know that so many people care about the health of our stream.  The Arnold team is 211.  

[MOPanfisher]

I doubt that even if there were a congressman or three pushing the construction of a dam that it would even happen.  The laundry list of items to simply get started would be huge.  The cost would be phenomenal and the end result would be many many years out.  The COE takes it marching orders on dam building from Congress.  Congress would have to authorize, and then fund any such construction.  Even in the "good old days" there were often many years between authorization and funding for the big flood control projects.  There is much more awareness and appreciation for natural systems and how they work than in the past, I am only 50 and if the push was started now, with a lot of support I doubt I could live long enough to see a dam built.  There is probably a better chance of winning the lottery.   HOWEVER I would like to see a more concerted effort to purchase low lying, flood prone land, maybe not everything that can ever flood, but say up to a 50 or 100 year flood level.  Would create a riparian corridor, and filter zone, allow flood water to spread out reducing the effects of a sudden flood, create many thousands of additional acres for wildlife habitat, and public use.  Turn those flood prone areas in to river/greenways.

[shrapnel]

We could sure use a nice lake on the east side of the state.

[Smalliebigs]

4 hours ago, Haris122 said:

Yeah, there did seem to be a lot of people. I got there in the morning, had to leave in the middle, then went back and it was getting hard finding enough trash. At least from 141 downstream to Unger. However, someone left a good number of bags at a trail (probably cause they were heavy), and no one picked those up. I think that was bad organization on their part. I waited until yesterday and then decided to pick that stuff up and take it to the dumpsters. Brings me to another point, they should've had a few dumpsters on the southern side of the river too. I could see the dumpsters at Greentree from Unger, but had to drive miles just to get somewhere to toss it.

Do they ever do cleanup further downstream? Lower Meramec and especially Butler, are not short of trash.

Hell yes Haris122. ....you rock brother!!!

I admit it is a tad out of control but, it's  all for the good....at least you walk the walk man!!!!!

Thank you sooo much for your efforts....a guided tour of any stretch  of the river is on me, just ask and I'm serious I'll  put you on some fish

[Smalliebigs]

3 hours ago, timinmo said:

The Arnold Stream Team (209? or 211?) is very active.  I think if you check, you will find they are constantly cleaning and picking up.  They do a wonderful job.  Anyone who has not participated in Operation Clean Stream should give it a try.  It is one of the most rewarding activities around.  It always feels good to know that so many people care about the health of our stream.  The Arnold team is 211.  

Stream Team 211 Rocks!!!!!

I thank you guys from the bottom of my heart.....anybody down there wants to go catch some Hybrids or White bass or Blue cats in my Sea Ark let me know

I'M drinking  a Fat Tire to you guys right now

[Smalliebigs]

5 hours ago, Haris122 said:

Yeah, there did seem to be a lot of people. I got there in the morning, had to leave in the middle, then went back and it was getting hard finding enough trash. At least from 141 downstream to Unger. However, someone left a good number of bags at a trail (probably cause they were heavy), and no one picked those up. I think that was bad organization on their part. I waited until yesterday and then decided to pick that stuff up and take it to the dumpsters. Brings me to another point, they should've had a few dumpsters on the southern side of the river too. I could see the dumpsters at Greentree from Unger, but had to drive miles just to get somewhere to toss it.

Do they ever do cleanup further downstream? Lower Meramec and especially Butler, are not short of trash.

Agreed the dumpsters are quite expensive but I agree with you this year was obviously extra bad because the epic flood last Winter but, you are right a ton of debris ends up on the inside turn of the river there.

[MOPanfisher]

Usually there is a group or agency around that can be talked into springing for a dumpster for clean ups like that.  Sometimes even the trash company will supply one, especially if allowed to plaster their name around that they are helping.  Even a big 40 yard construction dumpster, with the delivery charge and $ per ton tipping fee likely around 600 to 700 depending upon weight, which is a lot for a stream team but not if you get a company or two to kick in.  Just a thought, some places it works and some places it doesn't.

[Haris122]

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Hell yes Haris122. ....you rock brother!!!

I admit it is a tad out of control but, it's  all for the good....at least you walk the walk man!!!!!

On occasion I try to. In all honesty you won't see me picking up trash on a weekly basis, but every now and then I try. After all I got a stake in it, as much as I go fishing. I see some older dude at Lower Meramec Park that seems to get there with his kayak on a weekly basis, and picks stuff up on the water. Now that dude walks the walk. It's more fun to do it in a group setting like the operation stream team but last 2 years, every time they had something like that going, it was on a weekend I worked.

Messed up thing is, I'd say a good 60-70% of the styrofoam trash, bottles, and other smaller pieces of trash, are from people fishing.

[joeD]