Feral Hogs are getting out of hand

[ramman123]

On 11/6/2016 at 8:18 PM, MOPanfisher said:

For what it's worth, the COE, didnt really care about hunting on COE lands, but in order not o have different rules in same areas MDC asked the COE to cooperate and the COE has.  Trapping is way more efficient, however it's not unusual to have one or two of a group not go into the trap.  the best approach would be to bait, trap and then put dogs onto the last one or two and then run them down.  problem is pigs don't recognize property lines and the dogs don't either, and as far as I know the MDC doesn't have any trained dogs.  As for the guys in the boat they would have been, USDA.  Dept. of Agriculture, maybe with an MDC person but they seem to like to worm within their agency.  As for leasing of COE lands, what specifically are you referring too?  

but arent you and the MDC going against the Code of Ethics and just letting pigs rot compared to feeding shelters and what not. Yes i understand they arent native animals to MO but still they are here and i feel they fall into the same category as any other wild animal

 

DOnt feed me the hog wash about they disease ridden they eat exactly the same stuff that the local wildlife eats and u dont hear people dieing from turkey deer that has been hunted

also if MDC was smart they could expand the Feed the Harvest from deer to boars as well again that meat would be processed in a USDA setting and whats the issue with that

 

 

[trythisonemv]

Hogs destroy property and ttake forage from native mammals. They are agressive and dangerous in comparison to native animals. In my opinion if they are having success trapping the whole sounder then banning the hunt for them where it works is fine. 

[Johnsfolly]

I have not seen any information that would indicate that the meat from the feral hogs trapped by the MDC has been wasted. That's possible, but I don't have that information. I do disagree that hogs eat the same things as deer and turkeys.  Hogs "can" carry more disease than a deer because of the potential for hogs to eat waste and carrion that a deer or a turkey would not eat. In that regard the meat of hogs needs to be fully cooked like that of a bear. That doesn't mean that the meat would not be delicious when prepared properly. I haven't had feral hog, but I do enjoy bear meat. More like beef than venison, but is sweeter tasting. Also holds a lot of fat.

[ozark trout fisher]

4 hours ago, ramman123 said:

I have to totally disagree with u about this because if you look at studies in Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma trapping doesnt work

ok so if ur such a conservationist then y are u agreeing that it is ok for them to be trapped and killed and left to Rot instead that meat could be used to feed people that truly need it. Code of Ethics you kill u eat not waste, try to prove me that they are hazardous to eat. If you dont believe they are good then come eat dinner with me some time and ill make boar for you.

The problem with wild boar is that the disease issues make a "Share the Harvest" type program from the trapped hogs unfeasible. If it turns out any of their diseases cause issues in humans(and the burden in that sort of a program is really to prove that it doesn't) you have a massive and complicated issue on your hands. You don't have to like that way of thinking, but as long as the MDC is a government agency, they HAVE to.

[Chief Grey Bear]

Anbody that's ranting and raving stop to think what it would cost to process 4,000 hogs? Feel free to start donating the cash to do so.

[MOPanfisher]

Feral hogs do carry more diseases than wild animals, and yes many of them are buried.  MDC doesn't want the liability of someone contracting a disease or claiming they did, no do they want the cost of processing them, if a commercial slaughterhouse would even take them.  If you kill one on private property you can make you own decision whether to keep it or not, personally if it was a healthy hog I would process it myself.  But remember E. coli will kill you or make you think you are dying.

[SpoonDog]

They're not game animals, they're pests.  Rats are perfectly edible, too- and no one gets upset when they're poisoned or trapped and thrown in a dumpster.  How many tons of carp are left rotting on the banks of Stockton every year by anglers? How many perfectly edible sportfish die and rot on trotlines?

States like Texas and North Carolina, with no closed season, no bag limits, and lots of hog hunters- still have a ton of hogs.  The idea hunters keep their populations in check, much less drive them down to zero, just isn't substantiated by fact. 

 

[ramman123]

Ok then well how about we just make all hunting illegal then seems to me that if you guys bitch about that then you all become crybabies saying the Gov is overstepping there boundries.  Just like when the gov was shut down and we the people complained that they shut the ramps down at the lake we said we had paid for that with our taxes and they dont have a right to tell us we cant use them, same goes for the public and corp land we pay to openly hunt on that land but you guys are to busy complaining that the pigs are destroying land but arent willing to take care of the issue so ur letting the Gov control the supposed Problem

 

and to the guy that is complaining about the idea of share your harvest the hunter is  the one that pays the processing fee anyway( i just read where in some area the MDC covers partial cost of  Processing) i have been on several trips with guys i hunt with that they always donate and dont mind paying the fee because they enjoy hunting and know that the meat is going to good use

[Flysmallie]

15 hours ago, ozark trout fisher said:

The problem with wild boar is that the disease issues make a "Share the Harvest" type program from the trapped hogs unfeasible. 

Meanwhile in Texas hunters are getting 80 cents per pound for the meat. It's not a lot but I hear it covers the tab at the liquor store. 

[ozark trout fisher]

2 hours ago, ramman123 said:

Ok then well how about we just make all hunting illegal then seems to me that if you guys bitch about that then you all become crybabies saying the Gov is overstepping there boundries.  Just like when the gov was shut down and we the people complained that they shut the ramps down at the lake we said we had paid for that with our taxes and they dont have a right to tell us we cant use them, same goes for the public and corp land we pay to openly hunt on that land but you guys are to busy complaining that the pigs are destroying land but arent willing to take care of the issue so ur letting the Gov control the supposed Problem

 

and to the guy that is complaining about the idea of share your harvest the hunter is  the one that pays the processing fee anyway i have been on several trips with guys i hunt with that they always donate and dont mind paying the fee because they enjoy hunting and know that the meat is going to good use

Incorrect.