Line stretch test

[moguy1973]

I was over on Bass Resource and found this neat little bit of information about line stretch.  I found it weird that the Co-polymer lines did so well when they were dry and still reasonably well when wet.  I thought that flurocarbon was a lot less stretch resistant than it showed in the tests too, although water didn't affect it as much as it did on the mono and co-poly lines.

https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/171709-annual-line-stretch-test-updated-2016/

[Flysmallie]

I like science and tests and results. Makes things interesting.

However it does not compel me to switch from what I'm using. Years of independent study in my mind is how I choose what works for me.   

[moguy1973]

A couple things fluoro has going for it is that it has the same light refraction co-efficient as water so it virtually disappears.  That and it's denser that water so it sinks.

[Flysmallie]

5 minutes ago, moguy1973 said:

That and it's denser that water so it sinks.

That's not always a good thing. 

[rps]

A few years ago Tackle Tour tested mono, co-poly, and fluoro lines for stretch, abrasion resistance, and water logged behavior. They used Maxima as their mono baseline. The results were illuminating.

I have fished and recommended Yozuri, a co-poly, for years.

[fishinwrench]

The reason I prefer Co-poly over 100% flouro is because once flouro gets stretched it starts acting weird, and nothing can straighten it out again.

For whatever reason the Co-poly that I use doesn't do that.   Abrasion resistance is a big thing with me because I pitch under and over dock cables alot.  But I can't stand a line that is really stiff. 

[Ham]

Props to the dedicated knucklehead that did the research buttttttttttttt I would like him to have used 12 lb line instead of 8 lb and I would like to have measured stretch under various weights.

im not sure of the mechanics of it, but fluorocarbon is more sensitive than mono. I thought it might be that fluorocarbon stretches less under light loads like a lure weight and that the angle to the lure is more direct than than the angle when using mono.

[Al Agnew]

I like fluoro tippet material for fly fishing, because it seems to be a bit tougher than mono tippet, and works well for nymphing especially.  But I haven't been too impressed with any of the fluoros I've tried with casting reels.  I don't value the supposed "invisibility" of fluoro underwater, for two reasons: I'm not convinced it's that much less visible than mono under real world conditions, and I'm not convinced that invisibility is important anyway.  So I don't choose a line based upon that, I choose it based upon knot strength, abrasion resistance, and castability.  Co-poly lines just seem to have a much better combination of those factors than mono or fluoro.  I've been using either Yozuri Hybrid or McCoys Mean Green for more than a decade, and haven't found the need to even try much else, though I occasionally do.

[fishinwrench]

The invisibility thing is hogwash. I can see flouro just as easily as I can mono, and so can a fish.

The sinking thing is hogwash. If you think your crankbait runs deeper with flouro then you're crazy.

The More Sensitive thing is hogwash too.  If your line has to stretch before you feel something then your nerves are dead.

The Abrasion Resistance thing is real, and IMO it's the only TRUE reason to use flouro or flouro coated lines. 

[moguy1973]

11 hours ago, Ham said:

Props to the dedicated knucklehead that did the research buttttttttttttt I would like him to have used 12 lb line instead of 8 lb and I would like to have measured stretch under various weights.

im not sure of the mechanics of it, but fluorocarbon is more sensitive than mono. I thought it might be that fluorocarbon stretches less under light loads like a lure weight and that the angle to the lure is more direct than than the angle when using mono.

That seemed to be the consensus in the comments in that thread.  The test wasn't done under real world conditions.  Bass don't constantly pull on the line like a weight hung vertically on it.  The type of rod also seemed to come into play as some don't stress the line as much as others.  The basis of the test though was what I thought was interesting though, esp the fact that manufacturers and pro anglers claim that fluoro doesn't stretch as much as other plastic lines, which doesn't seem to be the case with this test.