MDC Rant

[Eaton Braunbass]

7 hours ago, Ketchup said:

Not a single one of these things comes into play in any way, in regards to my property. 

I think the issue here has been lost since I posted. I could care less about who tracks what. My issue “use that term lightly” is on my property. Not anything to do with being in public. So if I own the land, I should be able to harvest the animals that cross it, or live on it, without being required to give any info to a state agency. 

Someone posted about the MDC basically restocking deer in the 30’s. That is a far fetched conclusion, as it is possible the deer today, came from Kansas/Arkansas/ioaw, Illinois stock, as they know no boundaries. 

Im one 1/2 Native American Cherokee Indian and i think your ideas about private property are funny. 

[fishinwrench]

28 minutes ago, Eaton Braunbass said:

Im one 1/2 Native American Cherokee Indian and i think your ideas about private property are funny. 

That's probably why y'all lost 75% of your land.  😅

Shoulda stood your ground, fought harder for what was yours, instead of giving in and walking away.   If it was so funny why were there so many tears on the trail ? 🤔

[tjm]

49 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

That's probably why y'all lost 75% of your land.  😅

Shoulda stood your ground, fought harder for what was yours, instead of giving in and walking away.   If it was so funny why were there so many tears on the trail ? 🤔

nahh, That was the fault of the  Massachuset, Narraganset, Wamaponag, Delaware, Tuscarota and Powhatan tribes and their ultra liberal immigration policies.  They let anyone in that could sit in a boat when they shoulda built a Fence.

[MoCarp]

4 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

That's probably why y'all lost 75% of your land.  😅

Shoulda stood your ground, fought harder for what was yours, instead of giving in and walking away.   If it was so funny why were there so many tears on the trail ? 

Wow man I bet your fun in a bar, hope you bring big friends 😮😮😮

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, MoCarp said:

how you bring big friends 😮😮😮

Oh you're a Cherokee too hu?    

Me bring little friends, but they Apache. Go thru you like tomahawk thru cornstalk.  So shut up and sit down before Chief Greybear arrive!  

🤣

[MoCarp]

1 hour ago, fishinwrench said:

Oh you're a Cherokee too hu?    

Me bring little friends, but they Apache. Go thru you like tomahawk thru cornstalk.  So shut up and sit down before Chief Greybear arrive!  

🤣

Sorry just good old mixed American....you seem angry perhaps some tea?

[jdmidwest]

13 hours ago, Eaton Braunbass said:

Im one 1/2 Native American Cherokee Indian and i think your ideas about private property are funny. 

If things had went a different direction, none of us would be hunting on Tribal Lands.

[Devan S.]

20 hours ago, Ketchup said:

I think the issue here has been lost since I posted. I could care less about who tracks what. My issue “use that term lightly” is on my property. Not anything to do with being in public. So if I own the land, I should be able to harvest the animals that cross it, or live on it, without being required to give any info to a state agency. 

 

So by the same token that its your property, you should be able to burn millions of tires on your property? Dump hazardous waste on your property? 

The fact is YOU follow the rules. Many more do not with the rules in place as they are currently. Landowner tags catch a lot of people every year due to abuse. Remove any restrictions/tracking and things only get worse.

How would you feel if a large multinational corporation bought 10,000 acres surrounding you and literally killed EVERYTHING that moves?

[MoCarp]

Also until you pay off “your” land technically the bank owns it, if you don’t believe me stop paying the payment, pretty soon you will get escorted from the banks land

[SpoonDog]

22 hours ago, Ketchup said:

 My issue “use that term lightly” is on my property. Not anything to do with being in public. So if I own the land, I should be able to harvest the animals that cross it, or live on it, without being required to give any info to a state agency.

Yes, you own the land- and you can manage it any way you see fit.  If you wanna build a high fence to keep wildlife out, that's your right- because you own the land.  If you wanna burn it, raze it to bedrock, salt the earth so nothing will grow and make it totally inhospitable for wildlife- that's your right, because you own the land.  You can sign any number of leases with any number of hunters to shoot any number of deer you'd like and make a profit in the process- and you have that right, because you own the land. 

 

For all the reasons we've already described, you don't own the wildlife on your land.  The distinction between owning land and owning wildlife exists whether you see it or not, whether you agree with it or not...even whether you understand it, or not.  Wildlife is owned by the public, whether it's standing on your back 40 or not.  The fact there's a power pole in my side yard doesn't give me jurisdiction to cut it up for firewood and haul the transformer off for scrap.  The fact there's a storm sewer in the backyard doesn't give me jurisdiction to fill in the manhole for a flower bed.  The fact a county road runs through my land doesn't give me jurisdiction to throw up a gate and collect tolls.  You don't become the owner of someone else's property just because it's on your land. 

Really, the take-home message is your private property rights don't supersede everyone else's property rights- and wildlife isn't your property.