MDC Rant

[fishinwrench]

Ok, but.....

 

On 2/15/2019 at 8:12 PM, Ketchup said:

why does the MDC need my personal info?

 

[Terrierman]

Do you seriously think MDC can't get all of your personal information from a metric ton of other sources if they really want it?  It's all just to go into database used to describe the deer harvest and set future regulations.  Hardly nefarious.  But that doesn't fit your paranoid mindset, so carry on with fretting about your rights to not be "watched".

[Terrierman]

23 hours ago, Ketchup said:

Not a single one of these things comes into play in any way, in regards to my property. 

I think the issue here has been lost since I posted. I could care less about who tracks what. My issue “use that term lightly” is on my property. Not anything to do with being in public. So if I own the land, I should be able to harvest the animals that cross it, or live on it, without being required to give any info to a state agency. 

Someone posted about the MDC basically restocking deer in the 30’s. That is a far fetched conclusion, as it is possible the deer today, came from Kansas/Arkansas/ioaw, Illinois stock, as they know no boundaries. 

Whoa there pardner.  You think owning land should exempt you from following Federal State and local laws on that land?  Why stop at harvesting game?  Shouldn't you be able to reroute rivers, pollute water and air too?  I mean it is your land.

[SpoonDog]

40 minutes ago, fishinwrench said:

Ok, but.....

" why does the MDC need my personal info? "

 

Verification.  Not everyone's permitted to take game, and those who are abide by harvest limits.  Not everyone is eligible for landowner tags.  I'd be shocked if folks didn't apply for them fraudulently using info from absentee landowners, the same way folks grandmaw timber.  And it wouldn't surprised me at all to learn a couple landowner tags are used outside said landowner's home county a couple times a season. 

MDC needs your personal info because people try and game the system.

[Ketchup]

18 hours ago, Eaton Braunbass said:

Im one 1/2 Native American Cherokee Indian and i think your ideas about private property are funny. 

Let me guess, you think the gov’ment owes you something?

[Ketchup]

4 hours ago, MoCarp said:

Also until you pay off “your” land technically the bank owns it, if you don’t believe me stop paying the payment, pretty soon you will get escorted from the banks land

Don’t you have carp to catch?

Who’s to say it isn’t paid off? And, what would you know about anything hunting related?

[Ketchup]

Some of you say the wildlife are owned by the state, then i just read that they belong to the public. 

As i stated, the honest will do honest things. With that said, if i choose to be honest, and follow game laws, that is my choice to do so, just as well as if i were to decide to do as the Amish do. No-one would/could stop me. 

I spent many years enforcing the laws of this state, and a database with my name on it is a give-me. There is no hiding on that end. 

Thread was started as a rambling to get opinions, which obviously there are a few, as well as a few laughs, which wrench provided, as always. 

So....If i hit a deer with my vehicle, who is writing the check, since these animals roaming, belong to you?

[Terrierman]

44 minutes ago, Ketchup said:

Some of you say the wildlife are owned by the state, then i just read that they belong to the public. 

As i stated, the honest will do honest things. With that said, if i choose to be honest, and follow game laws, that is my choice to do so, just as well as if i were to decide to do as the Amish do. No-one would/could stop me. 

I spent many years enforcing the laws of this state, and a database with my name on it is a give-me. There is no hiding on that end. 

Thread was started as a rambling to get opinions, which obviously there are a few, as well as a few laughs, which wrench provided, as always. 

So....If i hit a deer with my vehicle, who is writing the check, since these animals roaming, belong to you?

The same people who write you a check after you hit one of my trees. 

[fishinwrench]

I learned awhile back that if my dog steps on your property you are perfectly legal to shoot him.   

Time of day doesn't matter, you can even use a spotlight.   

No claims of damage or threat are required.   You can even bait him with a hot female or a pile of meat.   

But somebody's deer?  Noooooo!  🙄

[SpoonDog]

2 hours ago, Ketchup said:

 

As i stated, the honest will do honest things. With that said, if i choose to be honest, and follow game laws, that is my choice to do so, just as well as if i were to decide to do as the Amish do. No-one would/could stop me. 

 

The mistake in this is you're only thinking of you.

You want to kill every animal crossing your land?  The consequences of that decision don't end at your property boundary.  You're deciding for your neighbors, for their neighbors, without their input or consent, that they'll have fewer and poorer hunting opportunities on their land.   By invoking rights you don't actually have under the law, you're depriving your neighbors of their right to use and enjoy their land. 

You're confusing your choices with your rights.  You can absolutely choose to kill as many deer as you want, but you don't have the right to.  Like it or not you're an adult, and you're absolutely accountable for the choices you make.  That's what responsibility is.  People may not prevent you from make really, tragically stupid decisions...but they can absolutely hold you accountable for them.

You have the choice to be a selfish, dishonest, insufferable POS if you want to.  I don't know why you'd want to, it sounds miserable.  If I were your neighbor, following game laws honestly, and my hunting was suffering because you chose not to...it isn't even a serious question.  I'd turn you in in a heartbeat.