snagged in outlet 3 Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 11:51 AM, Old plug said: Been many years since I haunted the Mississippi up around Clarksville. Back then you could fish the river from bank to bank. You just could not tie up or git out ofter boat and fish from the bank.The sloughs and shoots were also off limits What did you fish for up there back then?
Al Agnew Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Well, the last quote says it pretty plainly that it's considered the conservation or "normal" pool, but this could still be a can of worms unless there is clear signage at that point. There ain't any contour lines on the banks to see. So if the lake is 5 feet above conservation pool, which would probably back it up a couple miles farther, and you aren't already VERY familiar with the upper end of that arm, how are you gonna know where that point is, 5 feet underwater, unless there's a prominent sign?
Chief Grey Bear Posted February 22, 2019 Author Posted February 22, 2019 I believe maps are available for free that shows the boundaries of the lake at normal pool. Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
tjm Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 I'm not sure how a map would help if the contour references aren't visible. I agree with Al that it could be a guess with no sign and high water, a buoy marker or some point of reference. I expect that where there are no signs there is no enforcement, leading to the belief that one can go possibly farther than legal by Code. The entire Code is easily accessed at the MoSOS site; https://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3csr.asp
Chief Grey Bear Posted February 22, 2019 Author Posted February 22, 2019 It's not difficult to read a map. It's pretty easy to figure out where you are. Daryk Campbell Sr 1 Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
Al Agnew Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 15 hours ago, Chief Grey Bear said: It's not difficult to read a map. It's pretty easy to figure out where you are. Not everybody can read a map. I guarantee you'll find anglers who couldn't read a map well enough to figure out where the boundary was. tjm 1
fishinwrench Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, Al Agnew said: Not everybody can read a map. I guarantee you'll find anglers who couldn't read a map well enough to figure out where the boundary was. Well then they should stay home until they learn. Or pay the ticket. Daryk Campbell Sr 1
tjm Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 I'll bet you can find anglers who with map and compass couldn't tell which tributary they are in. I don't know anyone under 40 that can navigate on land without a satellite thing. Let em pay the ticket and they still won't know. I think there is a huge sign at Houseman, but it's been 20 years since I was there and I could be wrong. I knew this had come before, these guys say you go as far up Kings and Long Creek as you want; so maybe Ar. defines "impounded waters" differently than MO. Their regulations are deliberately opaque and the web site looks like some kid developed it. I gave up learning anything there. On 2/13/2018 at 3:31 PM, Bill Babler said: The boarder lake permit will work up the Kings. You can launch at Grandview or even Barryville and float to 86 no problem. I currently have a friend offering float trips and the warden told him no prob as long as you have the Border Lake Permit. On 1/17/2012 at 3:39 PM, Martin said: Just a quick tip that might save somebody some grief: IF you have a White River Border Lakes permit on your fishing license, you can go as far as you CAN go up the Kings River.... No problem....On the White River, your border lakes permit STOPS working at the downstream border of the Trophy Trout Area below Beaver Dam, which is also called Housemann, since there is a small ramp there, near Busch, Ar., called the Housemann Access. If you venture upstream from Housemann, you'll need an Arkansas fishing license..... You can also go as far as you want UP Long Creek...And, of course, the James River since its goes north, farther into Missouri.... Good fishing guys !!
Jerry Rapp Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 it seems like the easiest way to fix this issue is just to state it as "the border permit allows fishing up a tributary as far as you can drive your boat up the creek".
Chief Grey Bear Posted February 23, 2019 Author Posted February 23, 2019 Now you guys are reaching just to make your argument. With today's technology, there is no way you don't know where you are. The rule said "impounded waters". If you're too stupid to at least figure that out, how did you learn to fish in the first place? Who knew Wrench would be the voice of reason??? Chief Grey Bear Living is dangerous to your health Owner Ozark Fishing Expeditions Co-Owner, Chief Executive Product Development Team Jerm Werm Executive Pro Staff Team Agnew Executive Pro Staff Paul Dallas Productions Executive Pro Staff Team Heddon, River Division Chief Primary Consultant Missouri Smallmouth Alliance Executive Vice President Ronnie Moore Outdoors
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