Just how smart you think a bass is about lures???

[jdmidwest]

There is a pattern if you can find it.  Takes time and casting.

[Old plug]

21 hours ago, jdmidwest said:

There is a pattern if you can find it.  Takes time and casting.

Yes I know where they went. I just have not been out any due to boat traffic. to go to this spots on the main channel. It is the same thing I was doing here but at 25-30ft. I am tooo old to deal with that kind of rough water

[jdmidwest]

10 hours ago, Old plug said:

Yes I know where they went. I just have not been out any due to boat traffic. to go to this spots on the main channel. It is the same thing I was doing here but at 25-30ft. I am tooo old to deal with that kind of rough water

I simply meant, there is a pattern if you can find it, it takes time and casting. 

[Seth]

Feeding windows play a large part IMO. I've seen it too many times where you fish a stretch and don't catch diddly, but then come back and hit it again in a few hours and hammer them. I'm sure they were around a few hours prior, they just weren't in a feeding mood. Personally, I always do better in the early afternoon versus the morning, but there are always exceptions to the norm. Other guys fishing the same days have a totally opposite experience.

[fishinwrench]

I've always done best in the evenings regardless of the time of the year.  I'm not so sure that it isn't because my concentration level and reflexes are best during that time of day.   I just seem to think clearer, have more focused energy, and make better decisions from lunchtime until dark.  

[Old plug]

i am with you on that Wrench But I think Seth has a point as well there seems to be a point every season when you can do better really deep in mid day. Especially for big bass. I do not know what exactly causes that. I feel like its not water temperature. Its pretty cool under docks,  Trouble for me now is I cannot get on to my spots. They are all on the main channel of the Gravois.  A couple of years back I caught a 5 lber 2 days in a row. I told you about that I think, had to fillet both of them because I might have brought them up too fast. I sure do not think so. I am aware and use caution about that. But they both we're down awful near 30 ft.  There are so many mysteries about bass fishing we do not understand and never will till they speak English. I doubt they will be telling all anyway.

[tjm]

So, tides, moon rise changing daily play any part in those feeding times?

[Old plug]

2 hours ago, tjm said:

So, tides, moon rise changing daily play any part in those feeding times?

Well sun , moon. Can no tides here but there tides the ocean are effected by the moon

[fishinwrench]

3 hours ago, tjm said:

So, tides, moon rise changing daily play any part in those feeding times?

White bass are noticably effected by moon phases and very VERY subtle water level fluctuations, but I've never been able to recognize patterns like that with any other species that I fish for.  

Has anyone else ever noticed that when the fishing is really shut down hard, I mean when no matter what you try you can't hardly get a single bite.....the bite that you DO get will be a Drum ?    What's up with that? Drum always seem to be biting the best when no other fish want to play.

[tjm]

Moon would have the same gravitational pull on loz as it does the Atlantic doesn't it? I know there used to a lot of deer hunters that used the solunar tables to predict deer movement/feeding times, if the tide tables affect deer wouldn't they also affect fish and frogs? New and full moons are when there are the highest and lowest tides, as the sun's gravity is added to that of the moon- are these better or worse fishing times? Roughly speaking the high tides would be when the moon is straight overhead  or straight under foot (on the exact opposite side of the earth)

I have a theory about low light and fish movement;  little fish that move around in bright light are visible and get eaten so that the survivors are hose that shunned light when small and having always shunned light they continue to as large fish, when they become the predators they still react as the prey that they were in early life . Deeper water on bright days would be where the light level is lowest. Likewise the shade of a bank, log or boulder- low light being relative.  All prey animals are prone to seek shadows or be crepuscular/nocturnal.

Daily atmospheric pressure has an effect  on fish and animal movement also, just as it affects how humans feel on a particular day. do you do better when the pressure is high or when it is low? Maybe on the rise or on the falling barometer?  Some scientist (I know that's like a four letter word) say that low pressure causes fish air bladders to expand and the fish to go deeper in the water try to feel better as the water pressure contracts the air bladders. According this fish would be more active in all parts of the water column when the barometer is a bit high, most active just before the fall in pressure (they feel the changes coming) and least active when the low pressure is settled over them.

It would be interesting to use moon phase, moon position, forecast barometer and forecast sun to calculate the best and worst fishing times/days and then to fish at those exact times to see if the calculated predictions prove out, what?