The Push for 100 Species in 2021

[Johnsfolly]

19 hours ago, FishnDave said:

That's a great day, John!  That Rosyside Dace is colorful...and NICE Flier by Livie!!

Dave it looked like your photos survived the purge . I went and uploaded those photos of our fish again into the thread that became lost after the site upgrade. Fortunately I use descriptive titles 😎.

[FishnDave]

31 minutes ago, Johnsfolly said:

Dave it looked like your photos survived the purge . 

I had posted my photos here as URL links from my Gifyu account.  In some other threads, I added the pics directly to the message, which stores them here.  I wonder if linked pictures survive, but pictures actually loaded here didn't?  How do you and @Ham post your pics here?

[Johnsfolly]

33 minutes ago, FishnDave said:

I had posted my photos here as URL links from my Gifyu account.  In some other threads, I added the pics directly to the message, which stores them here.  I wonder if linked pictures survive, but pictures actually loaded here didn't?  How do you and @Ham post your pics here?

I upload to the site. It looks like all uploaded photos before the update were lost. Phil is looking to see if those could be recovered.

[Ham]

See, it's a Good Thing Phil doesn't allow cursing. 

[FishnDave]

4 minutes ago, Ham said:

See, it's a Good Thing Phil doesn't allow cursing. 

Are you going to reload all 30-some species?  You HAVE to! 👍

[Ham]

I'm going to wait a little bit and see if Phil is able to recover them. I can reload them if need be. 

[FishnDave]

I've read some conflicting information that Koi are simply domesticated Common Carp.  But not so fast...turns out Koi are descended from Amur carp...and don't confuse that with White Amur (Grass Carp).  Here's what I could find regarding genus/species names for these fish:

Common Carp - Cyprinus carpio

Grass Carp - Ctenopharyngodon idella

Koi - Cyprinus rubrofuscus

Goldfish - Carassius auratus

Leather carp are their own species, although artificially bred.  Mirror Carp are a subspecies of Common Carp.  There are are a surprising number of common carp species that all look pretty similar but must be from isolated areas of Europe and Asia.  There are also Crucian Carp and Prussian Carp...and more.

[Johnsfolly]

4 hours ago, FishnDave said:

I've read some conflicting information that Koi are simply domesticated Common Carp.  But not so fast...turns out Koi are descended from Amur carp...and don't confuse that with White Amur (Grass Carp).  Here's what I could find regarding genus/species names for these fish:

Common Carp - Cyprinus carpio

Grass Carp - Ctenopharyngodon idella

Koi - Cyprinus rubrofuscus

Goldfish - Carassius auratus

Leather carp are their own species, although artificially bred.  Mirror Carp are a subspecies of Common Carp.  There are are a surprising number of common carp species that all look pretty similar but must be from isolated areas of Europe and Asia.  There are also Crucian Carp and Prussian Carp...and more.

That's all a load of carp if you ask me ! I always thought that the mirror and leather carp were genetic morphs and not true subspecies or species.

[FishnDave]

16 minutes ago, Johnsfolly said:

That's all a load of carp if you ask me ! I always thought that the mirror and leather carp were genetic morphs and not true subspecies or species.

That is what I thought as well.  And that Koi was also a common carp variant.  Maybe its all recent reclassifications?

Also...fish and humans share 70% of their genes.  So... That little bit of trivia will be of absolutely no help.  Ever.

But how about this?  Human teeth origins are traced to fish scales.  Boom.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-42057629

I just caught my distant cousin!

Or look at a Fish Fry as sort of an "Extended Family Reunion"! 😄

[Ham]

38) White Crappie