Didn't Know How To Deal With This

[Flysmallie]

7 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

When it comes to hunting and fishing.....where are they?     Seem to be very rare for some unknown reason. 

Ask any waitress anywhere if there's something they've noticed about black customers, and I bet they'll immediately say....."Well.....they don't leave tips, but I'm not allowed to mention that or I'll get fired"

I don't care what you call me, and I have no hate for anyone solely for reasons of race.....but I'm not gonna sit here and be fake, and pretend that we're all the same, because we just aren't.   We never will be, and there's no reason to pretend to be.   

The whole apologetic slavery thing needs to be let go and put to rest.   We all were brought up with the same king James Bible....which BTW certainly did NOT condemn slavery AT ALL.   Promoted it to be truthful.  Even had instructions on how you were to beat your slaves.  Which happens to be one of the reasons why I'm proud to be a non-follower.     The Bible says that as long as your slave doesn't die within a day or two after a good beating.....you did good.    Jesus Christ!  Are you kidding me?  😲 That's some guide to morality there, boy.  I think we can do better.   

[Terrierman]

7 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

When it comes to hunting and fishing.....where are they?     Seem to be very rare for some unknown reason. 

Ask any waitress anywhere if there's something they've noticed about black customers, and I bet they'll immediately say....."Well.....they don't leave tips, but I'm not allowed to mention that or I'll get fired"

I don't care what you call me, and I have no hate for anyone solely for reasons of race.....but I'm not gonna sit here and be fake, and pretend that we're all the same, because we just aren't.   We never will be, and there's no reason to pretend to be.   

The whole apologetic slavery thing needs to be let go and put to rest.   We all were brought up with the same king James Bible....which BTW certainly did NOT condemn slavery AT ALL.   Promoted it to be truthful.  Even had instructions on how you were to beat your slaves.  Which happens to be one of the reasons why I'm proud to be a non-follower.     The Bible says that as long as your slave doesn't die within a day or two after a good beating.....you did good.    Jesus Christ!  Are you kidding me?  😲 That's some guide to morality there, boy.  I think we can do better.   

You got one thing right.  We're not all the same.

[fishinwrench]

2 hours ago, Terrierman said:

You got one thing right.  We're not all the same.

If only one thing was right, which do you think was the most wrong ? 🤔

[fishinwrench]

3 hours ago, laker67 said:

@fishinwrench If that's all you gleaned from the Bible, you might want to try cover to cover.  It's an amazing love story with a great ending ❤️

 

I've been cover to cover more than once, just to be sure I wasn't misunderstanding something. Would  discuss it in depth with ya......but I'm encouraged not to on this forum.   

I will say though.....If it were I writing the "story" the LOVE would be easier to detect.  

[Terrierman]

2 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

If only one thing was right, which do you think was the most wrong ? 🤔

The rest of your post.

[fishinwrench]

7 hours ago, Terrierman said:

The rest of your post.

Really?    So you are going to sit there and pretend that you just can't relate to any of it....or have never noticed ?    

I find that REALLY hard to believe, but ok.   

 

Care to explain how the rest of my post was wrong, or are you content with just having record that you claimed that it was ?

[tjm]

Less than 5% of the population buy hunting permits,  so not sure that has any bearing, just not many people hunt. ~16% of the population buy fishing permits , but most are likely fishing near their homes, so in an area devoid of Russians you might not expect to see Russians fishing. And on a large reservoir you might also only see wealthy people fishing because low income folks tend to buy groceries instead of luxury boats. I have fished in places where there were as many black fishermen or more than there were of any other group. But they were local, not tourists. How many of your neighbors are of minorities? Do you see a lot of Hopi hunters and fishermen  around there?

Tipping should be outlawed anyway, make the employers pay wait staff a living wage or salary commensurate to skill and experience. It takes just as much skill and customer management to serve a $30 plate as it does to serve a $100 plate but you are expected to pay the $30 server $6 and the $100 server $30. And the cost of  six servers is already built into the price of the food. It's a barbaric practice left over from medieval times when servants were unpaid serfs/slaves, giving a gratuity indicates superiority and accepting it acknowledges inferiority.      But no I've never noticed who tips or how much, did you used to work for tips, or how do you know this?

Slavery in Bible times was not the kind of slavery that existed in the 17th-19th centuries, most Biblical slaves were voluntary having sold themselves to pay debts or such, or betrothed as a maid sold by a father, it was a form of employment, and if a slave ran away, it was illegal to return the slave to the master. If memory serves the period of slavery ended at the 7th year. The stealing of a man as was done when Spanish enslaved the natives or Africans were taken from their homes or the Irish were transported by the British to be sold as slaves was punishable by death. The whole chapter must be taken together not just a single line extracted used out of context. The line before your example states that if the servant dies the master must be punished for that, only if the servant lives is the master to escape punishment. The take away is not that it is good to beat the servant, just that it is legal to. When the slave recovers from the beating he is free to leave that master.

[Terrierman]

11 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Really?    So you are going to sit there and pretend that you just can't relate to any of it....or have never noticed ?    

I find that REALLY hard to believe, but ok.   

 

Care to explain how the rest of my post was wrong, or are you content with just having record that you claimed that it was ?

I'm content.

[fishinwrench]

4 hours ago, tjm said:

Tipping should be outlawed anyway, make the employers pay wait staff a living wage or salary commensurate to skill and experience. It takes just as much skill and customer management to serve a $30 plate as it does to serve a $100 plate but you are expected to pay the $30 server $6 and the $100 server $30. And the cost of  six servers is already built into the price of the food. It's a barbaric practice left over from medieval times when servants were unpaid serfs/slaves, giving a gratuity indicates superiority and accepting it acknowledges inferiority.      But no I've never noticed who tips or how much, did you used to work for tips, or how do you know this?

My sister's, daughters, their friends, and  numerous other friends have worked as waiters/waitresses all over the country.  It's a very common thing.   There's more to being a good server than the ability to carry a plate.    Are you gonna be like Terrierman and pretend to live seamlessly among multi-cultured angels in a perfect world?  

There was a gentleman from Quatar (race boat owner/driver) in the area for awhile and everyone made a big deal about how incredibly RUDE he was, and how degrading he was to all the women he came into contact with......Well that was just his culture !    People, regardless of race, that have been born, raised & educated here in the U.S. do NOT get to use that excuse.       They KNOW that waitresses rely on tips for their income.....They just don't CARE. 

 And THAT, among many other similar things, makes us different.   

We can all live together regardless, but this whole thing about having to pretend that we are all the same, is ludicrous.     

Males & Females aren't the same either......in case you haven't noticed.  You do know that it's not acceptable to stroll into the women's bathroom with your hand on your zipper, right ?   Or to just piss on the floor like they do in India.

[fishinwrench]

4 hours ago, tjm said:

Slavery in Bible times was not the kind of slavery that existed in the 17th-19th centuries, most Biblical slaves were voluntary having sold themselves to pay debts

Being forced, or having your situation being altered to where you have no other choice.......is NOT the definition of "voluntary".   

Is paying taxes voluntary?