Jet Jon project

[fishinwrench]

28 minutes ago, Dutch said:

I don’t find it intriguing, I find it costly in that I can no longer harvest them for lumber, only second class firewood.

 

 

Your local sawmill pays more for wood than you can get for firewood? 

Our doesn't.   If you want the most money out of a tree, you will come out way further ahead by selling it as firewood.  And I have a sawmill only 2/10 of a mile from here.  

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[Dutch]

You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.  Ash logs are specialty items for specialty buyers.  They are not marketable for firewood.  I’ve been selling various kinds of timber for a lot of years. My most consistent buyer is located in Oklahoma.  Before we sold off 1000 of our acres we were logging one farm or another every year or so.

[jdmidwest]

1 hour ago, Dutch said:

You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.  Ash logs are specialty items for specialty buyers.  They are not marketable for firewood.  I’ve been selling various kinds of timber for a lot of years. My most consistent buyer is located in Oklahoma.  Before we sold off 1000 of our acres we were logging one farm or another every year or so.

Our ash trees on the farm are almost all dead now from the borer.  I first noticed them in logs I keep by the fire place for when I need a fire.  They came from dead trees and I noticed little piles of sawdust on the floor.  Then I found the beetles dead on the window sill.  They leave telltale sign of their presence.  They weaken the tree until some other disease steps in and finishes them off.  As a mushroom hunter, I use them as a place to search for morels, which seem to be symbiotic to the root system of the tree.

The farm is located about 20 miles from the epicenter of it in Missouri, Old Greenville Campground.  They first found it there, carried in from another state on a traveling camper bringing their own wood from back east.  The Corps of Engineers and Forestry  tried to contain it by killing every ash tree in the area around there.  But, those suckers could fly.  And spread.

Timber is valuable if you have enough to harvest and is of good quality.  But most buyers want a quantity cut to set up shop.  They are not interested in a few yard trees.

[fishinwrench]

1 hour ago, jdmidwest said:

I first noticed them in logs I keep by the fire place for when I need a fire. 

Now wait a minute 🤔  Dutch says they won't burn.   So who's full of $#!t here? 

😅

[fishinwrench]

I just looked it up, it's worth about 900 per ton(premium), or .87 per board foot.   

Campgrounds sell firewood for 4.00 a bundle.....and you can easily carry 2 bundles under each arm. 

I'll maintain that an Ash tree is worth more as firewood until somebody proves me wrong. 

[Dutch]

2 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

Now wait a minute 🤔  Dutch says they won't burn.   So who's full of $#!t here? 

😅

I never said anything like that.  What I said was that ash is not premium fire wood.  Maybe you should take the time to read before you post. 

[Dutch]

3 hours ago, jdmidwest said:

Our ash trees on the farm are almost all dead now from the borer.  I first noticed them in logs I keep by the fire place for when I need a fire.  They came from dead trees and I noticed little piles of sawdust on the floor.  Then I found the beetles dead on the window sill.  They leave telltale sign of their presence.  They weaken the tree until some other disease steps in and finishes them off.  As a mushroom hunter, I use them as a place to search for morels, which seem to be symbiotic to the root system of the tree.

The farm is located about 20 miles from the epicenter of it in Missouri, Old Greenville Campground.  They first found it there, carried in from another state on a traveling camper bringing their own wood from back east.  The Corps of Engineers and Forestry  tried to contain it by killing every ash tree in the area around there.  But, those suckers could fly.  And spread.

Timber is valuable if you have enough to harvest and is of good quality.  But most buyers want a quantity cut to set up shop.  They are not interested in a few yard trees.

J D even though we are actually able to see the results we are probably wrong because wrench is a renowned forester who knows more about ash trees and logging than we do.

[Dutch]

2 hours ago, fishinwrench said:

I just looked it up, it's worth about 900 per ton(premium), or .87 per board foot.   

Campgrounds sell firewood for 4.00 a bundle.....and you can easily carry 2 bundles under each arm. 

I'll maintain that an Ash tree is worth more as firewood until somebody proves me wrong. 

Once again where did you get your information and to what type of logs are you referring?

[MOPanfisher]

Drive down the highway and look out in the timber.  You can pick out the dead/dying ash trees, they are mostly "blonde out".  Ash has never been a particularly high end firewood, about one year and then it turn to dust.  It will burn kind of like cardboard and weighs about as much after a year.

[fishinwrench]

5 hours ago, Dutch said:

I never said anything like that.  What I said was that ash is not premium fire wood.  Maybe you should take the time to read before you post. 

No, you said it wasn't marketable as firewood.    

Nevertheless, Dude, CALM DOWN!    I wasn't trying to insult your beloved Ash trees.  Let's not completely lose our sense of humor here !   🙄